re: Hurst TX PD drops bodycam footage of a traffic stop turning into a meltdown arrest

Why do they always yell about having kids in the car, but don't seem to care that they're setting terrible examples for those very same kids with their ridiculous behavior?

She will be boasting about her defiance. She be a symbol of bad white man now

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IMO he should have just wrote her another citation for littering and everyone move along.

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so would anyone who isn't a bootlicker. sadly this place is full of bootlickers.

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There are bootlickers and then there are dumbasses who excuse this behavior. She obviously would have just thrown out the second citation and it would have come to the same conclusion, because people like this think they don’t have to deal with consequences because of dumbasses like you making excuses for them.

The experiment has failed

That’s all that sovereign citizen shite that hasn’t or never will work it’s like how many times you gonna touch that hot stove before you get it

Culcha!

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And she would have learned nothing.

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She still wont LEAR something. It is victim DNA

That supervisor shtick is just for retail stores……..

Caught doing 40 in a school zone is bad enough, just take the L and say yes officer thank you …..

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I guess the cops adjusted and the morons never will.

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I go through phases during which I watch a fair number of these kinds of videos and there are still plenty of cops who don't understand the 1st and 4th amendment and who do not have any idea how to legally deal with someone who refuses to to something they tell them to do just because they are cops.

I'd say what I see is about 50/50. And it's always the same stuff. If it's the cops being stupid it's almost always going to be some form of:

1. Not understanding when people are able to be compelled to produce an ID/verbally identify themselves and when they aren't.

2. Not understanding that someone calling the police on someone else because "someone is acting suspicious" is not the same thing as having "reasonable, articulable suspicion that a crime was committed, is being committed, or is likely to be committed in the immediate future."

3. Not understanding that citizens are not obligated to assist police in their investigations and if they elect not to, that doesn't constitute reasonable suspicion.

4. Some type of retaliation for daring to not ask how high when the officer said jump.

5. Not understanding that government buildings are public spaces (even if leased from a private owner) and it is legal to film them and also film inside of them, even if public employees inside the building don't like it and/or don't want to be filmed.

When it's citizens being idiots it almost always boils down to:

1. Sovereign citizen nonsense (I'm not driving, I'm traveling.)

2. Thinking that police are required by law to call a supervisor to the scene or that they are required by law to only allow officers whom the citizen approves of to touch them.

3. Being entirely ignorant of Pennsylvania vs Mims and thinking that they have the right to refuse to exit the vehicle if ordered to during a traffic stop (usually they think if they say, "I don't feel safe," that the cops can't make them get out.)

4. Thinking that the cop is obligated to tell them when they ask what their charges are (immediately followed by arguing with the officer about the charges, as though they believe that if they win the verbal tete a tete then the officer can't arrest them.)

5. (This one is more recent IME) Thinking that they can call their spouse, lawyer, parent, etc. and that they don't have to comply with orders while on the phone.

I may have missed one or two, but I would say 90%+ of the videos I see are some version of those 10 scenarios above or a combination of two or more of them.

And 100% of the time, if you are watching a video in which the citizen announces that he or she "knows my rights," you can rest assured that they do NOT know their rights and the likelihood of them ending up in the back of the po-lice car by the end of the video are very high.

The ones who actually know their rights do not announce it. They simply argue the rights in question.