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How to handle crowd attacking my auto
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:52 am
I live in Mississippi so this question is specific to this state. If I get surrounded by a hostile crowd, jumping on my car, breaking windows, and making threats though I have done nothing to antagonize the crowd, what are my legal options to protect myself? I carry a pistol in the console but would use it only as a last resort, which brings up the question, what legally is the last resort? Serious answers only, please.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:53 am to oldtimefootball
drive slowly through the crowd. when you're done, call your insurance and make a claim for the bruises on your car.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:54 am to oldtimefootball
Do what you have to do to protect you and your passenger’s lives. Make sure you know a good lawyer who can stick it to the Corrupt system.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:55 am to oldtimefootball
serious answer. be aware enough of your surroundings to never be caught like that.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:55 am to oldtimefootball
Counter assault bear spray, 10 ounce size sprays 30-40 ft. If that fails, rain hot lead.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:56 am to oldcharlie8
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drive slowly through the crowd. when you're done, call your insurance and make a claim for the bruises on your car.
I would get on the phone with 911. If anything unfortunate happens, there won’t be any questions about your thoughts, motives, and fear for your safety - all things a prosecutor would attack (you’re seeking confrontation, hate protestors, etc)
It’s all recorded. A jury would be able to easily relate to whatever action you took within reason.
This post was edited on 7/3/20 at 10:03 am
Posted on 7/3/20 at 9:56 am to oldtimefootball
I don’t care what the legal options are. If a violent mob is attacking my car I am driving through them
The rest will be settled afterwards once I am safe
The rest will be settled afterwards once I am safe
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:01 am to oldtimefootball
I drive a 4x4 diesel Excursion. I'm getting out of there one way or another.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:05 am to oldtimefootball
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breaking windows
The second the windows on the car have been breached, you are mere moments away from injury and death.
You have no other choice but to defend yourself with the biggest and most lethal weapon at your disposal.
That weapon is your car. You need to floor it.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:24 am to beauxgy
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Counter assault bear spray, 10 ounce size sprays 30-40 ft. If that fails, rain hot lead.
We need pepper spray foggers attached to the car
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:25 am to oldtimefootball
Here is the statute:
Important details:
If they are committing a felony or ha e designs to commit a felony on you while in your car, you are allowed to defend yourself with deadly force.
You have the presumtion that you used deadly force lawfully and the prosecutor must overcome that presumption, hence you would be more likely to avoid attorney fees.
You have no duty to retreat if acting lawfully and not the aggressor.
You also have civil immunity if you act accordingly from above.
quote:
§ 97-3-15. Homicide; justifiable homicide; use of defensive force; duty to retreat
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement or omission of another shall be justifiable in the following cases:
(a) When committed by public officers, or those acting by their aid and assistance, in obedience to any judgment of a competent court;
(b) When necessarily committed by public officers, or those acting by their command in their aid and assistance, in overcoming actual resistance to the execution of some legal process, or to the discharge of any other legal duty;
(c) When necessarily committed by public officers, or those acting by their command in their aid and assistance, in retaking any felon who has been rescued or has escaped;
(d) When necessarily committed by public officers, or those acting by their command in their aid and assistance, in arresting any felon fleeing from justice;
(e) When committed by any person in resisting any attempt unlawfully to kill such person or to commit any felony upon him, or upon or in any dwelling, in any occupied vehicle, in any place of business, in any place of employment or in the immediate premises thereof in which such person shall be;
(f) When committed in the lawful defense of one’s own person or any other human being, where there shall be reasonable ground to apprehend a design to commit a felony or to do some great personal injury, and there shall be imminent danger of such design being accomplished;
(g) When necessarily committed in attempting by lawful ways and means to apprehend any person for any felony committed;
(h) When necessarily committed in lawfully suppressing any riot or in lawfully keeping and preserving the peace; and
(i) When necessarily committed in the performance of duty as a member of a church or place of worship security program as described in Section 45-9-171.
(2)
(a) As used in subsection (1)(c) and (d) of this section, the term “when necessarily committed” means that a public officer or a person acting by or at the officer’s command, aid or assistance is authorized to use such force as necessary in securing and detaining the felon offender, overcoming the offender’s resistance, preventing the offender’s escape, recapturing the offender if the offender escapes or in protecting himself or others from bodily harm; but such officer or person shall not be authorized to resort to deadly or dangerous means when to do so would be unreasonable under the circumstances. The public officer or person acting by or at the officer’s command may act upon a reasonable apprehension of the surrounding circumstances; however, such officer or person shall not use excessive force or force that is greater than reasonably necessary in securing and detaining the offender, overcoming the offender’s resistance, preventing the offender’s escape, recapturing the offender if the offender escapes or in protecting himself or others from bodily harm.
(b) As used in subsection (1)(c) and (d) of this section the term “felon” shall include an offender who has been convicted of a felony and shall also include an offender who is in custody, or whose custody is being sought, on a charge or for an offense which is punishable, upon conviction, by death or confinement in the Penitentiary.
(c) As used in subsections (1)(e) and (3) of this section, “dwelling” means a building or conveyance of any kind that has a roof over it, whether the building or conveyance is temporary or permanent, mobile or immobile, including a tent, that is designed to be occupied by people lodging therein at night, including any attached porch.
(3) A person who uses defensive force shall be presumed to have reasonably feared imminent death or great bodily harm, or the commission of a felony upon him or another or upon his dwelling, or against a vehicle which he was occupying, or against his business or place of employment or the immediate premises of such business or place of employment, if the person against whom the defensive force was used, was in the process of unlawfully and forcibly entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a dwelling, occupied vehicle, business, place of employment or the immediate premises thereof or if that person had unlawfully removed or was attempting to unlawfully remove another against the other person’s will from that dwelling, occupied vehicle, business, place of employment or the immediate premises thereof and the person who used defensive force knew or had reason to believe that the forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred. This presumption shall not apply if the person against whom defensive force was used has a right to be in or is a lawful resident or owner of the dwelling, vehicle, business, place of employment or the immediate premises thereof or is the lawful resident or owner of the dwelling, vehicle, business, place of employment or the immediate premises thereof or if the person who uses defensive force is engaged in unlawful activity or if the person is a law enforcement officer engaged in the performance of his official duties.
(4) A person who is not the initial aggressor and is not engaged in unlawful activity shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force under subsection (1)(e) or (f) of this section if the person is in a place where the person has a right to be, and no finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the person’s failure to retreat as evidence that the person’s use of force was unnecessary, excessive or unreasonable.
(5)
(a) The presumptions contained in subsection (3) of this section shall apply in civil cases in which self-defense or defense of another is claimed as a defense.
(b) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant acted in accordance with subsection (1)(e) or (f) of this section. A defendant who has previously been adjudicated “not guilty” of any crime by reason of subsection (1)(e) or (f) of this section shall be immune from any civil action for damages arising from the same conduct.
Important details:
If they are committing a felony or ha e designs to commit a felony on you while in your car, you are allowed to defend yourself with deadly force.
You have the presumtion that you used deadly force lawfully and the prosecutor must overcome that presumption, hence you would be more likely to avoid attorney fees.
You have no duty to retreat if acting lawfully and not the aggressor.
You also have civil immunity if you act accordingly from above.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:28 am to oldtimefootball
In Louisiana, if you are in your car and feel your life is in danger, you are allowed to use deadly force.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:32 am to oldtimefootball
Flame throwers rigged up to the side of your automobile is the only sensible answer.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:39 am to oldcharlie8
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drive slowly through the crowd.
This. Maintain a speed that both allows folks to get out of your way but also indicates you are not stopping. If they escalate you accelerate. Do not stop until you are safe. Do not engage the crowd. File police and insurance report promptly.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:43 am to idlewatcher
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Flame throwers rigged up to the side of your automobile is the only sensible answer.
There was company in South Africa that used to do that because the car-jackings were so bad in Johannesburg.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:47 am to oldtimefootball
Go to a vacant parking lot, practice doing controlled doughnuts to prepare yourself to take out as many fools as possible.
Leave the world a better place.
Leave the world a better place.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 10:50 am to oldtimefootball
It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
Posted on 7/3/20 at 11:04 am to oldtimefootball
I never heard - I guess the Soros backed candidate won the Hinds county DA race.
If so, that's the place I would be most concerned. Soros didn't spend all that money to have little things like the law get in the way of the prosecution of someone who exercised his right to self defense.
If so, that's the place I would be most concerned. Soros didn't spend all that money to have little things like the law get in the way of the prosecution of someone who exercised his right to self defense.
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