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re: How many life-long Dems on this site are appalled that their party is becoming Marxist?

Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19109 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 4:56 pm to
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My Grandfather, who was the bluest of Blue Dog's, and honestly didn't have a racist bone in his body, would be rolling in his box.


My FIL is an interesting case study. He is a devout Dem, a union man, a Diasabled WWII vet (Okinawa campaign), and something of a generational racist.
He probably wouldnt let a black person on his property but he voted for Cleo Fields for Gov. He is a devout big labor Dem.
The mere mention of George Bush could push him into a tirade so passionate he could pass out.
He is 94 and lost his hearing at Okinawa so he doesnt watch much TV anymore. I dont know what he knows about what is going on now and I m not bringing it up. He would be absolutely appalled at the actions of the Dem politicians if you could present it to him with no R or D beside peoples names. But he will go to his grave a D forever...
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:11 pm to
the key elements of fdr campaign 1932 1936 were taken from 1928 socialist candidate.

none of this is new.

a living wage.
free education.
healthcare

how can you be against it?


This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29872 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:34 pm to
My father is a huge republican that “held his nose” and voted Hillary the last election and will be voting Trump this time around. I think that is a larger group than people realize as well.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:37 pm to
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a living wage.
free education.
healthcare

how can you be against it?


Looks like Maduro's promises to Venezuela to most people.
Posted by Born to be a Tiger1
Somewhere lost in Texas
Member since Jan 2018
596 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:18 pm to
I realized it in 1992.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:23 pm to
Wrong party scro
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48012 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:26 pm to
Because anyone with a working brain understands that none of those things are free.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29872 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:43 pm to
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a living wage


Minimum wage is a farce. No one forces anyone to take a job and raising minimum wage is like the number 1 thing government can do to cause inflation. Meaning prices just go up and the min raise hike actually hurt everyone that didnt get get that bump in pay.

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Free education


Education is free all the way up until adulthood. Why are taxpayers responsible for anyone that wishes to continue education past that point?

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Healthcare


Obamacare tripled my families healthcare expenses and we have worse coverage. I knew it would happen when he swore on national television that it would not. If I knew it......that lying piece of isht knew it. Worst president since Jimmy Carter.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11633 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:08 pm to
I've been skeptical of these anecdotal stories of people getting red pilled. However, I now can add my own anecdote. A "friend" that I have known for decades is a retired school teacher. She was a "Karen" before we knew what a Karen was. She taught at magnet schools her entire career and has always been a big advocate for the "disenfranchised" and those with alternate life styles, etc. She is still a big JBE backer but because she thought Hillary was part of the corrupt ruling class, she voted 3rd party in 2016. Now that she is retired she has been able to watch all the hearings and Kavanaugh was a turning point for her to question the DEMS. Now with the looting and burning and the DEMS refusing to condemn it..she said this is what the entire country will be like. So, I said which 3rd party candidate are you going to vote for...she said; "Oh, no I'm voting for Trump as much as he disgusts me." Now I actually know someone who has awakened.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:11 pm to
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At the same time, I'd ask life-long Republicans on this site, are they appalled that their party is the home of White nationalism and bigotry
this is easily answered. I'm not appalled because the assertion is false
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:11 pm to
quote:


how can you be against it?
by having a brain
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147359 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:17 pm to
Toddy and DS.

Anyone that is still on board with dems (even my super dem SIL came around) are cognitively impaired.
Posted by Ignatius Reilly 504
Member since Apr 2020
5 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:20 pm to
I’m glad our party finally realized that we are in the final stage of Capitalism. It’s failure will open the door for a more just system. Progressives lead every positive cultural shift. We will lead this one as well.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10077 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 1:57 am to
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are they appalled that their party is the home of White nationalism and bigotry?


Continue
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10077 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 2:01 am to
quote:

a living wage.
free education.
healthcare

how can you be against it?


Because these are not real. Nothing is free. It’s payed by increasing taxes.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6615 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:44 am to
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I’m glad our party finally realized that we are in the final stage of Capitalism. It’s failure will open the door for a more just system.


More just for who? Taking from hard workers and giving to those with less work ethic is not just. Taking from the couple that put themselves through school and held off on kids until they were financially stable and giving to the uneducated single mom that had 3 kids before she was 21 is not just.

There is not a system more just than one in which you get what you earn.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1343 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 3:49 am to
You’ll need to provide one single verified example for me, then I’ll respond. Thanks.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1343 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 4:01 am to
If someone supports the downfall of capitalism, why don’t they simply relocated to Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea? The socialist nirvana is right there for the taking. You could buy a one way plane ticket to Havana or other socialist wonderlands.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 4:37 am to
Yep. I left the party and am not looking back.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/3/20 at 5:07 am to
quote:

the key elements of fdr campaign 1932 1936 were taken from 1928 socialist candidate.

none of this is new.

a living wage.
free education.
healthcare

how can you be against it?



example A - how these assholes are the enemy of the country
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