re: How long until Herbivore Men, Incels and MGTOW take over the U.S.?

My experience consisted of me visiting temples and walking 20 miles a day. But these guys at my hotel had sworn off “supporting “ women financially in the USA and UK and meet each other in Pattaya or Cebu City or elsewhere twice a year. So you can do the math. I mean, they are single men who loathe dating in The West and they have a new creed which gives them license to do whatever the Frick they want.

1) Thanks to all the responses, I'm normally good at figuring out acronyms based on context, but no fricking way I would have figured these out.

2) You are depressed man. The female can smell your lack of confidence and insecurity for miles.

You don't need good looks, and you don't need money. (Obviously these things help TREMENDOUSLY) --- but are not required. What you need is CONFIDENCE. This is all you need.

It is not how you start, it is how you finish. So you're a 40 year old virgin. Oh well. That doesn't mean you can't get laid. It doesn't mean you cannot find a quality piece of woman. It just means you are doing something wrong.

Work on yourself. Get in shape. Get healthy. GET YOUR MIND RIGHT.

People don't know this, and it is common sense, but accomplishing shite is the key to life. Set small goals at first. Goals you can hit. You will feel great once you hit them. Then make them tougher. Rinse and repeat. Physical goals (10 push ups , 20, 30 then 40) Jogging a mile, 2 then a 5k. Creative goals, do you write? draw? paint? sculpt? whittle wood? Repaint a room in your house. Plant a garden. Cultivate live rocks and invertebrates in a salt water aquarium. Get an 1800 rating in chess. Anything will do. Do something! Set a small goal and hit it.

Do something that you can look at and say "I did this" "I created this." A sense of accomplishment goes a LONG WAY towards curing depression. Confidence and a high self worth makes you not give a frick about other people's opinions. Not giving a frick ---- Gets you laid!!

So you value yourself a 5... big fricking deal. Pysch studies have shown that people gravitate towards their own perceived ranking. If you feel you are a 5, don't go after 10s. Go after 5's. Guess what??? Women that rank themselves as 5's are looking for 5 men.

You are making $45,000 a year, so if you find a woman making the same relative amount, you can bang out(yes pun intended) a nice middle class life with decent stability.

IMO, the worse thing you can do is not try. So you are getting no action, and you try to get some --- and are rejected... what have you lost? NOTHING. You are still getting none.

At the end of days, you will not regret your failures, you will regret not trying.

Sorry to go all rah rah on you. Truly not my style. But, you're special kid. Now go get that arse.

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Man up.

All you have are excuses.

The decisions you make every day make you. So choose to be strong, choose to be tough. Choose to be better.

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But what if you're tired of trying? That's my problem, I'm just tired of even trying at this point. I'm stuck where I am in life and until certain life events happen there's not much I can do to change it.

The thing is unlike some Incels who hate women for not hooking up with them, I understand why women aren't interested in me. I don't have a terrible personality but I'm honestly pretty boring. Not artistic, not musically inclined (though I am going to try to learn to play the piano this year), not in a high powered career making much money.

I enjoy going to the beach, traveling, watching sports, playing tennis, watching sci-fi and anime. All pretty generic stuff. There are so many other Chads who are better looking, have more money, more exotic or at least pretty artistic.

In some ways I have learned to believe in Buddhism. I just have to hope that I don't screw up so much in the next lifetime.

Great advice.

I'm sorry, this thread kind of got off track. I didn't mean to start talking about my personal situation.

So do you think the Incel and MGTOW populations will continue to grow here in the U.S.? What kind of affect do you think it will have on society as a whole? Will we eventually get into a situation like Japan and Hong Kong where women literally can't find men who want to be in a relationship and potentially get married?

Everyone dies alone. Even if you die in a room of fifty people who love you, you die alone. Life is a solo journey shared with other people . Even your closest family are on entirely different journeys. It is an illusion that your wife or girlfriend are on the same journey as you.

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TTIOT

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I think you need your arse whipped. No wonder your dad abandoned your queer arse.

You are intelligent and articulate. We are all incel at some point. Find a good church. There are plenty of women who would enjoy your company.

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You are right that Incels don't hate women but hate that they don't have the looks and/or personality to be with women.

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So this one is pissy because he looks like shite and has the personality of a pile of shite, but expects some one to be interested in him,

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MGTOW's can get women but have been burned so bad by women they have decided to reject them.

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And this one has the self esteem issues of a teenage girl going through puberty.

Am I pretty close here? Sounds like a bunch of whiny asses that would rather hang out with other whiny asses than do something about their situation. All women are not the same, bub. Go find one that isn't a total bitch, or, quit setting your aim so high.

As for them taking over...no way, not with that mindset. They apparently don't have the mental fortitude to get out of their parents' basement, much less "take over". These guys sound like the definition of Beta males.