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How is wiping out 30 acres of nature to install solar better for the environment?

Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:56 am
Trees and habitat for wildlife destroyed so that someone can pocket government subsidies being siphoned out of the taxpayers’ pockets.



Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 9:58 am to
Where are we deforesting to install solar arrays? Most that I have seen seem to be constructed on tracts that are already barren.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:04 am
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5479 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:04 am to
link amigo
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6763 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:04 am to
Many are built on desert lands. They aren't barren and there is wildlife that depends on these type of habitats. I'm no expert so I don't know how much of an impact it has, but I know people that make good money moving around desert tortoise and looking for endangered birds on the construction sites.

After a quick google search I was surprised at the amount of solar energy use in eastern states. I guess there may be some deforestation.
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:12 am to
Happening in Georgia and South Carolina.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:12 am to
Solar and shade don’t mix. Spent the last 8 years (prior to moving to Alaska in May) 100% off grid. Great to see GOP putting more money into NREA projects as well. Solar is a no brainer. No moving parts, low maintenance, relatively cheap, and can be used in ways that have dual purpose (parking shade structure).
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:16 am to
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Solar is a no brainer.


But it can also kill birds, and what about the loss of animal habitat?

And how about surface reflectivity in places like the desert? Heat that is normally reflected back into space is being trapped here by the panels.

I’m not picking on you. I just don’t think most have fully thought this through (like always).
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:18 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50545 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:18 am to
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can be used in ways that have dual purpose (parking shade structure)


I like this kind of idea, but how many rooftops would need to be used for solar panels in a metro area to make solar power relevant?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27570 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:35 am to
Are you a lobbyist for electric companies. Know a guy at Ono Island who went solar. Works very well. Electric bill is minimal.

shite, the electric companies are in on the act...Entergy is doing it out in a field in New Orleans East
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:38 am to
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And how about surface reflectivity in places like the desert? Heat that is normally reflected back into space is being trapped here by the panels.


It's causing GLOBAL WARMING!! Where is algore and leonardo when you need them? Oh yeah, flying their corporate jets around telling us how we need to live
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 10:57 am to
Anyone who understands albido and is also concerned with global warming would oppose solar arrays on the principal of physics. Say you turn 30 acres of high albedo dessert into solar arrays with the albido of tarmac, have you actually gained anything warming-wise over a new tech natural gas plant? Same thing with reflective solar arrays, you turn solar radiation that would have bounced back into space directly into extra heat that is now trapped. Not to mention all the environmental horrors associated with the mining involved in the manufacture of solar panels
This post was edited on 9/4/19 at 10:58 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:37 am to
None of that matters. It is the thought that counts.

Who here remembers when the government rushed to mandate airbags and then kids started dying because no one thought about the unintended consequences? And now we have warning labels in all our cars that no one reads.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28014 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:43 am to
Trees and plants and shite, don't really understand the Sun, Like us folk who have been Raised indoors watching video games. Suck it.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9416 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:44 am to
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How is wiping out 30 acres of nature to install solar better for the environment?


I know of a 1200 ac farm in Tn and another in AL that is being taken out of production just so the new Facebook facility in Huntsville can say they are using green energy.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6207 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:45 am to
Batteries, lots of them...
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42568 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 11:47 am to
You do know prime solar locations don't have trees, right?
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12515 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:44 pm to
It seems crazy that democrats allow this . They are helping companies make more money and killing the environment. Why not use all the government solar money for residents? It’s because democrats don’t want to help average working class citizens .
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19501 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 12:56 pm to
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Where are we deforesting to install solar arrays?


South Carolina. Just west of Aiken. Cut 100 acres of woods to make room.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:44 pm to
I hate to see what could be farm land or forest littered with those panels. There’s a good bit of it happening in my neck of the woods in south GA.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33446 posts
Posted on 9/4/19 at 1:53 pm to
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How is wiping out 30 acres of nature to install solar better for the environment?
Same question for agriculture vs cows.
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