re: How is Trump supposed to be the bad guy in his affair w/ Stormy?

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Why are we worried about Bill Clinton here? It's 2018

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Because of “Whataboutism”. I never questioned George W Bush or Obama on their moral integrity at large. I may have disagreed with them or think they were morally misguided, but at the end of the day I think they are decent men.

I do not think this of Bill Clinton, and the Left celebrating him and his wife after all the horrific shite they did is fricking disgusting. We should call them out on this. Instead many on the Right, including most of the retards on this board, have instead decided to piggyback on Bill Clinton and say since he did it, then Trump can.

Really the most iconic thing Trump has ever said is “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters.” He is correct, because his and really the Clinton’s fans have no moral standards. So I will continue to bring up Bill Clinton since you are standing on his legacy on what he did being morally acceptable just because Trump may do it.

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Well, as you pointed out, Clinton did a LOT more than just frick some chick on the side.

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So? You’re still standing on top of Clinton’s shallow moral grave and saying anything that Trump does better means he’s morally justified. Meanwhile if I compare him to the moral integrity of Eisenhower or Truman, he’s exposed as a moral coward. Truman was a shite talker too, but whenever I ask what Truman or Eisenhower would do, Trump and Clinton look pathetic in comparison. That’s an acceptable moral standard to compare the leader of the greatest country in the history of the world. Trump and Clinton aren’t.

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You have literally ZERO of knowing that's true. Were you their friends? Neighbors? Kids? Cause otherwise, all you know about public people is what comes out.

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OK, so by this standard there are no facts. You could ask me “How do you know Harry Truman didn’t rape and kill a girl in 1937?” I couldn’t say that with 100% certainty, but I can say with 99.9% certainty that he didn’t do this.

With this worldview, there is no right and wrong and conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones or Mark Dice run the show. Until I see some evidence about these bullshite hypotheticals, then I won’t address them.

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Because of “Whataboutism”. I never questioned George W Bush or Obama on their moral integrity at large. I may have disagreed with them or think they were morally misguided, but at the end of the day I think they are decent men.

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"Think" being the key word. I mean, I think you might be right. But, I don't know. Neither do you.

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Really the most iconic thing Trump has ever said is “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any voters.” He is correct, because his and really the Clinton’s fans have no moral standards. So I will continue to bring up Bill Clinton since you are standing on his legacy on what he did being morally acceptable just because Trump may do it.

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You must be talking about someone else.

I don't worry about such things. I listed for you the 4 things I consider relevant to my vote.

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OK, so by this standard there are no facts.

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Of course there are.

You can know what he said he stands for. You can know how his votes comport with what he said. And, you can know if you agree with it or not.

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ou could ask me “How do you know Harry Truman didn’t rape and kill a girl in 1937?” I couldn’t say that with 100% certainty,

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Yup

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but I can say with 99.9% certainty that he didn’t do this.

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Well that's only because you can say with 99.9% certainty about virtually anyone with only rare exception. I hope you don't think that example proves anything.

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With this worldview, there is no right and wrong

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There is absolutely right and wrong. I merely laugh at the idea that you think that because you have any way of really knowing about a public person. All you know is what you hear.

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NO, I didn't. In workplace sexual harassment consent is not the issue. The way we talked about sexual harassment at the time (still?) was that if the boss had sex with an underling, the underling could NOT give consent. She was in a place of vulnerability by virtue of him being her boss.

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It certainly was an issue that he was Commander in Chief and at precisely the moment he was found out to be fricking his young subordinate and committing adultery..........there were almost certainly many young Soldiers, Sailors, Marines and Airmen being railed out of the service for exactly that.

But, admittedly, I think that's a stupid politic too.

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Most of us mere mortals wait to hear an admission of guilt before we say we know someone is guilty.

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Really? Glad judges and juries don't work that way

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As do I, and I opposed what the Republicans did to him

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Let me be clear here.

I don't give a frick if Bill fricked half the women on the east coast.

But I most certainly DO care that he lied in his Paula Jones deposition.

People can dismiss her all they want........but, the case was being heard............and as such, you don't just get to say "frick it, I'll straight up lie under oath". Especially if your name starts with President.

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Really? Glad judges and juries don't work that way

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Well perhaps I am uninformed. Which judge or jury decided that Trump and Stormy Daniels had sex 12 years ago? Tell me which courtroom the trial took place in and the date of the decision so I can do some research.

Saying that you wait until somebody admits guilt before you find them guilty is a pretty funny standard

I'm sure the lawyer just picked a random porn star and paid her $130 grand to not make up any stories about Donald Trump

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What’s so funny is that Trump is so much up in your head you actually believe this. Lol.

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Yeah, I do, because we have tons of dumb fricks here who are stupid enough to believe that Trump’s lawyer took out a home equity loan to pay for his client’s hooker. If you can believe that, then you’re dumb enough to believe anything.

If Trump murdered someone with overwhelming evidence, there’s no doubt that disgusting stupid twats like CptBengal, Wild Thang, and imjustafatkid would defend him. Do people forget about OJ Simpson? I would not put it past this incredibly stupid board to defend in the same manner the white equivalent of OJ. Trump is completely correct when he says he could kill a person and his most devoted followers would still support him.

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I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.

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That’s a direct quote from Trump. And you’re a total idiot for believing it. Trump is full of shite, but he gets in peoples heads when he does it. And that’s what he’s trying to do.

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Well, at least I’m not dumb enough to believe in the lawyer doing a home equity loan to cover Trump fricking a hooker. If you believe, sorry I’m clearly smarter than you. I could convince your stupid arse of anything, or at least the Orange Pussy Grabber could.

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I called Trump out as being full of shite and I’m a dumbass. Lol

And Trump was smart enough to use a lawyer as a go between him and Stormy. Attorney client privilege keeps the whole encounter privileged information.

MAGA.