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re: How is Trump going to avoid a repeat of 2020?

Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:17 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:17 am to
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So Trump lost due to a lack of support from the RNC, not because the election was fraudulent or stolen?




The RNC did not match DNC cheating, or cheat just enough.

Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:21 am to
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The RNC did not match DNC cheating, or cheat just enough.



So still, Trump was outmaneuvered.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133470 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:23 am to
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I have zero confidence in his ability to organize and execute an effective ballot harvesting operation.


I understand.

People that do not like Trump always expect the Trump campaign to do what the DNC does for their candidate.

Joe Biden DID NOT facilitate ballot harvesting. The DNC via the leadership of Marc Elias facilitated Democrat Party ballot harvesting.

Trump or any Republican candidate is at a disadvantage. The Republican candidate will not get RNC support to ballot harvest.

What the Republicans candidate will get is a $20 million dollar website espousing the virtues of the GOP candidate and why you should vote for them, that no one cares about.
Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:24 am to
No mass mail in voting?
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
55789 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:25 am to
Be cant! You cant beat the FBI and the CIA! I will still
Vote for him because if a democrat goes back in it will bring the people to the point they need to take this government back if we are to survive!
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to
He is ballot harvesting and some states, like AZ has changed some laws.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133470 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to
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So still, Trump was outmaneuvered.



Sure if your assumption is Trump and the DNC are on equal footing. If one candidate is equal to a multitiered and multi state organization.

But that is illogical and just a flat wrong assumption.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43877 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to
hes been outspoken about ballot harvesting. Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:29 am to
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hes been outspoken about ballot harvesting. Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.


That’s something he could have implemented in 2020.

DeSantis said yesterday he will ballot harvest in states where it’s allowed.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133470 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:30 am to
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Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.


To be fair Ron just mentioned it. The RNC is being pulled along still kicking and screaming on the ballot harvesting issue. The RNC does not want to do it.

But if, a big if, the people and the candidates keep talking about it we can drag them along and force the issue. Force the RNC to support ballot harvesting efforts like SoCal Republicans have been doing since 2018.

ETA: but the RNC needs a point man. The RNC needs there own Marc Elias.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:33 am
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:34 am to
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Covid. No mail In voting


I have three family members who are former military that have to vote by mail. One is an international pilot, one works for the DEA (outside of USA) and the third works for the state department in Aruba. I have one active military that is stationed in Japan.
They don’t get to vote in your world?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43877 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:35 am to
So were you looking for an answer to your question or are you once again looking to bicker about your devotion to DeSantis?

As for 2020, I'm not sure how anyone could have known that sophisticated and organized vote muling efforts were in place, or that those efforts would not be prosecuted under ballot harvesting laws. They certainly couldnt have known that incomplete, invalid, non-secured, or non signature matched ballots would be counted without potential remedy. With what we know now, and recent changes to state ballot drop box laws, the R candidate could and should have an apparatus in place to register and drop votes in these battleground states.
Posted by TigerAttorney
Member since Nov 2017
4103 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:38 am to
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What’s going to be different

Wanna ban bet Biden doesn’t get close to matching his vote totals in the swing states compared to 2020?

And Trump will repeat with record numbers in each.

That’s how. Biden can get Obama 2008 turnout, (previous record) and Trump would win every swing state by 2-5 points.

Go look at vote totals in GA, WI, PA, MI, AZ etc in 2020 compared to any election in history. There was astronomical turnout due to mail in Covid votes. Some precincts 99%. And Biden barely beat trump in 3-4 states by less than 25k votes.

That doesn’t happen
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:43 am to
To sum up the answers to this thread:

Trump was out-maneuvered in 2020. He could have done things differently that would have allowed him to win and he didn’t do them.
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:45 am to
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This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:47 am
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:47 am to
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Fat Bastard


Posted by Knartfocker
Member since Jun 2020
1585 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:49 am to
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GA, WI, PA, MI, AZ


What have these states done since 2020 to ensure a "fair" election?

GA - reelected Raffensberger and Warnock. Raff was instrumental in the 2020 clusterfrick.

WI - elected leftist to state SC, giving leftists the courts. Ballot harvesting will get the green light there

PA - is a joke

MI - reelected Whitmer. Detroit will have no oversight

AZ - Gov. Katie Hobbs and Maricopa County, which doesn't really give any fricks about getting caught breaking election laws
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43877 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:02 am to
why are you summing up anything with your twisted and biased interpretations? Our answers are here and very plain to read?

Who are you? Cathey Newman?
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter! JESUS IS LORD,
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:03 am to
My gosh man you are ate up with it aren't you?
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:03 am to
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Our answers are here and very plain to read?


I agree. The only answer tied in any way to reality is that Trump left votes on the table in 2020 because his team didn’t do everything they could have done. AKA he lost.
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