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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:21 am to GumboPot
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The RNC did not match DNC cheating, or cheat just enough.
So still, Trump was outmaneuvered.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:23 am to coolpapaboze
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I have zero confidence in his ability to organize and execute an effective ballot harvesting operation.
I understand.
People that do not like Trump always expect the Trump campaign to do what the DNC does for their candidate.
Joe Biden DID NOT facilitate ballot harvesting. The DNC via the leadership of Marc Elias facilitated Democrat Party ballot harvesting.
Trump or any Republican candidate is at a disadvantage. The Republican candidate will not get RNC support to ballot harvest.
What the Republicans candidate will get is a $20 million dollar website espousing the virtues of the GOP candidate and why you should vote for them, that no one cares about.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:25 am to Jon Ham
Be cant! You cant beat the FBI and the CIA! I will still
Vote for him because if a democrat goes back in it will bring the people to the point they need to take this government back if we are to survive!
Vote for him because if a democrat goes back in it will bring the people to the point they need to take this government back if we are to survive!
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to Jon Ham
He is ballot harvesting and some states, like AZ has changed some laws.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to Jon Ham
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So still, Trump was outmaneuvered.
Sure if your assumption is Trump and the DNC are on equal footing. If one candidate is equal to a multitiered and multi state organization.
But that is illogical and just a flat wrong assumption.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:26 am to Jon Ham
hes been outspoken about ballot harvesting. Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:29 am to Vacherie Saint
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hes been outspoken about ballot harvesting. Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.
That’s something he could have implemented in 2020.
DeSantis said yesterday he will ballot harvest in states where it’s allowed.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:30 am to Vacherie Saint
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Hes openly willing to play by the democrat's rules and hes been the only candidate thus far to say that.
To be fair Ron just mentioned it. The RNC is being pulled along still kicking and screaming on the ballot harvesting issue. The RNC does not want to do it.
But if, a big if, the people and the candidates keep talking about it we can drag them along and force the issue. Force the RNC to support ballot harvesting efforts like SoCal Republicans have been doing since 2018.
ETA: but the RNC needs a point man. The RNC needs there own Marc Elias.
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:34 am to Hamma1122
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Covid. No mail In voting
I have three family members who are former military that have to vote by mail. One is an international pilot, one works for the DEA (outside of USA) and the third works for the state department in Aruba. I have one active military that is stationed in Japan.
They don’t get to vote in your world?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:35 am to Jon Ham
So were you looking for an answer to your question or are you once again looking to bicker about your devotion to DeSantis?
As for 2020, I'm not sure how anyone could have known that sophisticated and organized vote muling efforts were in place, or that those efforts would not be prosecuted under ballot harvesting laws. They certainly couldnt have known that incomplete, invalid, non-secured, or non signature matched ballots would be counted without potential remedy. With what we know now, and recent changes to state ballot drop box laws, the R candidate could and should have an apparatus in place to register and drop votes in these battleground states.
As for 2020, I'm not sure how anyone could have known that sophisticated and organized vote muling efforts were in place, or that those efforts would not be prosecuted under ballot harvesting laws. They certainly couldnt have known that incomplete, invalid, non-secured, or non signature matched ballots would be counted without potential remedy. With what we know now, and recent changes to state ballot drop box laws, the R candidate could and should have an apparatus in place to register and drop votes in these battleground states.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:38 am to Jon Ham
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What’s going to be different
Wanna ban bet Biden doesn’t get close to matching his vote totals in the swing states compared to 2020?
And Trump will repeat with record numbers in each.
That’s how. Biden can get Obama 2008 turnout, (previous record) and Trump would win every swing state by 2-5 points.
Go look at vote totals in GA, WI, PA, MI, AZ etc in 2020 compared to any election in history. There was astronomical turnout due to mail in Covid votes. Some precincts 99%. And Biden barely beat trump in 3-4 states by less than 25k votes.
That doesn’t happen
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:43 am to TigerAttorney
To sum up the answers to this thread:
Trump was out-maneuvered in 2020. He could have done things differently that would have allowed him to win and he didn’t do them.
Trump was out-maneuvered in 2020. He could have done things differently that would have allowed him to win and he didn’t do them.
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:45 am to Jon Ham
congrats JON HAM CUCK you moved up quick lil buddy like rammerjammercuck and others. you guys made a hard push and unseated OMlandcuck and sir cuck winston. for the 2 and 3 spots. you guys are true cucks!
( CUCK POWER RANKINGS INDEX) CPRI
1) cuckcucktomichigan
2) rammerjammerCUCK91 (pathological liar)
3) rnmldicksuckingcuck (pathological liar)
4) jlnolesCUCK69 (this guy is delusional and completely unhinged)
5) 14 and cucking
6) jon hamcuck (pathological liar)
7) fun bunch of CUCKS (pathological liar)
8) bucky/sucky cuck cheese (pathological liar)
9) lou CUCK me long time cream pai
10) slow cuck pro aka slow flo RINO
11) LandassCUCK (pathological liar)
12) displaced cuckeye
13) OMlandcuck
14) Roger the CUCKER
15) message board CUCK
16) CUCK town frog
17) sir cuck winston
18) northwestern cuckger
stidham8 has been removed from the list! good job stidham8!
( CUCK POWER RANKINGS INDEX) CPRI
1) cuckcucktomichigan
2) rammerjammerCUCK91 (pathological liar)
3) rnmldicksuckingcuck (pathological liar)
4) jlnolesCUCK69 (this guy is delusional and completely unhinged)
5) 14 and cucking
6) jon hamcuck (pathological liar)
7) fun bunch of CUCKS (pathological liar)
8) bucky/sucky cuck cheese (pathological liar)
9) lou CUCK me long time cream pai
10) slow cuck pro aka slow flo RINO
11) LandassCUCK (pathological liar)
12) displaced cuckeye
13) OMlandcuck
14) Roger the CUCKER
15) message board CUCK
16) CUCK town frog
17) sir cuck winston
18) northwestern cuckger
stidham8 has been removed from the list! good job stidham8!
This post was edited on 6/2/23 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:49 am to TigerAttorney
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GA, WI, PA, MI, AZ
What have these states done since 2020 to ensure a "fair" election?
GA - reelected Raffensberger and Warnock. Raff was instrumental in the 2020 clusterfrick.
WI - elected leftist to state SC, giving leftists the courts. Ballot harvesting will get the green light there
PA - is a joke
MI - reelected Whitmer. Detroit will have no oversight
AZ - Gov. Katie Hobbs and Maricopa County, which doesn't really give any fricks about getting caught breaking election laws
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:02 am to Jon Ham
why are you summing up anything with your twisted and biased interpretations? Our answers are here and very plain to read?
Who are you? Cathey Newman?
Who are you? Cathey Newman?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:03 am to Jon Ham
My gosh man you are ate up with it aren't you?
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:03 am to Vacherie Saint
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Our answers are here and very plain to read?
I agree. The only answer tied in any way to reality is that Trump left votes on the table in 2020 because his team didn’t do everything they could have done. AKA he lost.
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