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re: How is it possible that some Protestant churches support gay marriage?

Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:22 pm to
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:22 pm to
How is it possible a species, homo sapien, that is 300,000 years old, believes fully and without question a book written less than 4000 years ago, about 1 of 1000 " one true gods" without any question of its validity.... particularly when most "experts " interpret its text in different ways depending on what moral they want to push.

Eta:: my bad, google says there are about 18000 different gods worhsiped globally. But yours is the right one bro. It says so in that book.
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:24 pm to
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So do these churches abandon sola scriptura or do they just greatly manipulate the scripture to fit their political agenda?



Not an expert, but I believe Protestant churches in general claim pretty loudly to adhere to sola scriptura.

The major Christian tradition that does not adhere to it is Orthodoxy, but they don't do it in a "hey, we can just radically change the rules around" way. It's done more out of acknowledgement that God is incomprehensible to us men and that something written down, compiled, translated, etc. by mere men can't claim to be perfect or 100% complete.

Similarly, Orthodox Christians, to my knowledge, do not claim to be saved. They do not "know that they know that they know" or whatever that thing Baptists say is. They hope that they are saved. This, too, is done out of recognition of the imperfect nature of man and of our understanding, and it makes a lot of sense to me.

All in all, I see Christianity as a spectrum. At one end you have blustery know-it-alls like Jesse Duplantis (who claims Jesus hangs out in his office, physically, and chats with him) and the Mormons (who think they know God's secret handshake and will be given their own planets to rule). At the other end are the Orthodox Christians, who are much more circumspect in making absolute claims about God or Heaven, and also more careful about their personal conduct.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:25 pm to
PCA are good people. A little scared of blacks. But good people.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:28 pm to
Many Catholic priests support f@gs

Many Catholic priests are f@gs
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:30 pm to
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BTW, I’m Greek Orthodox, not Catholic.


good so we agree on sola scriptura and sola fide being false as I am roman catholic. We have this one in NOLA as you well know the oldest in NA.
LINK

speaking of which greek fest is end of month here.

The one in the Atlanta metropolis(cathedral of the annunciation) is real nice also.

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look you have 37k denominations for a ton of reasons many the wrong reasons.

Many of these protestant churches openly ordain homosexual pastors/priests and marry homosexuals. those are no longer churches.

northern baptist, lutheran, episcopalian, a presbyterian branch, and now supposedly methodist.

we are fighting a culture war with marxists having infiltrated many churches to different levels. They make up their own scriptural rules, traditions and churches.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:31 pm to
So you are an atheist? If so, I’m not going to try to convert you. And I cannot speak for every Christian denomination, but we Orthodox Christians consider ourselves an apostolic church. We have scripture but we also have the oral teaching from the church fathers, who were taught by the apostles, who were obviously taught by Christ. And the oral traditions, along with canon, and also the lives and teachings of the saints help us to know how to interpret scripture. But if you ever find yourself in Atlanta I invite you to join us at the Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:32 pm to
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we are fighting a culture war with marxists having infiltrated many churches to different levels.


Here’s a fella who has no idea what’s happened to the Catholic Church.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:36 pm to
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PCA are good people. A little scared of blacks. But good people.


There are a few good Reformed denominations.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:36 pm to
Same with Methodists
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:36 pm to
This statement is completely false. Sola scripture meaning needing scripture only is nonsense and is not even scriptural. Yes, we need scripture, but we also need His Holy Spirit for daily guidance, we need prayer as communication with our Heavenly Father. So your assumption that Protestants practice this is absurd. We go to church for fellowship, for corporate worship, for counsel, for rebuke if needed. All of this is based in scripture, inspired by God who watches over it to preform it. Anyone who thinks it not enough to live a life pleasing to God, and needs someone to “add” to it is deceiving themself.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:36 pm to
I attend the Annunciation Greek Orthodox Cathedral. It’s a beautiful cathedral. I hope you enjoy the Greek festival!
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:38 pm to
they're protestants we used to burn those phuckers at the stake.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10469 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:42 pm to
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So you are an atheist?


No. And im not reading the rest of your post.

Nothingness can never exist. If it can you will never know.

I am spritual and thank the universe for existence every night before i go to sleep.

What i wont do is buy into a book that was written and re interpreted when only royalty and the church were allowed to read, and proclaim my beliefs are better than the other 8 billion people alive, and judge other people even though the book im proclaiming is the only good one out of thousands tells me not to judge.

I believe in free will, karma, and either the universe, ancestors, or " guardian angels" that help to guide us. I know what i think is right and wrong and live by it. When i dont i cuss myself out for being a hypocritical pos and try to do better.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:44 pm to
Ok man. You do you. God bless.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:45 pm to
They aren't actually Christian churches.

Anybody can call themselves anything, that doesn't make it so.

The Bible unambiguously condemns homosexuality in the absolute harshest language possible every single time it's mentioned. There is no legitimate debate to be had.
Posted by 5WFSHR
Montgomery, AL
Member since Apr 2024
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:51 pm to
They’ve fallen away from biblical teachings.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:52 pm to
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They view the text through post-postmodern lenses. So the text doesn’t mean anything other than what they want it to mean. And it’s not viewed as having any real authority anyway. So you just underline stuff you like. Reinterpret it through critical theory and away you go.


This.

I’ve had a friend that grew up hardcore Church of Christ and saw the slow bend from I believe it all, to I don’t think the Bible is inaccurate but I think that there are some things that can be open to interpretation, to the Bible isn’t literal or infallible but I’m still a Christian and believe in Jesus, to people have misinterpreted scripture and abused and it’s just telling you to be a good person.


I can tolerate people that think that Bible is allegory but still believe in sola Grace through Jesus. I can handle people that think “women can be pastors” if they still believe in repenting of sin and turning to Jesus.

My problem lies in that I’ve never met a person that thinks the Bible is allegorical, women should be pastors, or that Homosexuality not being a sin, that don’t go all the way down the slippery slope.

There is no conservative women led Biblical reformed church. There is no gay affirming church that requires repentance.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1881 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:52 pm to
Not trying to be flippamt, and maybe someone will correct me - but the mainline Protestant churches do not believe the Bible is the word of God.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
36865 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:53 pm to
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And Methodists.
United Methodists. Global and Congregational Methodists are nothing like the United Methodist heathans.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
5414 posts
Posted on 5/18/25 at 7:53 pm to
Interesting.
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