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re: How hard does military recruiting numbers fall in the next few months?

Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:40 am to
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 6:40 am to
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Just my story. I have a 17 year old that was considering the military upon graduation. A’s and B’s in the honors and advanced placement program and a multi sport athlete. A couple of weeks ago the recruiter called me and asked if I was still encouraging my son to join. My response was “You want me to send my son to die in some Middle East shithole while Hunter Biden gets rich doing nothing but coke and under age girls? No thanks. If he wants to fine but I’m not encouraging it.”


I'll take "shite that never happened" for $200 Alex.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
37321 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 7:08 am to
The Biden Military will drop standards, enhance financial rewards, vet along Ideological/Racial lines...and swing the doors open to those Antifa/BLM insurrectionists on the street.

These people are smart; more so than some of their blunders would indicate.
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2159 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:06 am to
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No country in their right mind would ever try to take the US.

It's impossible....our own government cant control us. We have more guns than most armies.


You really think 12 gauge shotguns, AR-15, and handguns can go up against tanks, artillery, and air attacks?
Doesn’t matter, all the enemy has to do is sit back and wait. We are doing it for them.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15148 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:11 am to
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The link you provided shows 70% white enlisted men. WTF are you talking about?


I'm sorry you don't understand how data works and how to aggregate 1 segment into a population. Try reading it.

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The largest part of the population, about 61.3 percent, is composed of White Americans.


Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8741 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:29 am to




the draft of white educated males is coming. It will be called an equity thing
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11674 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:31 am to
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You really think 12 gauge shotguns, AR-15, and handguns can go up against tanks, artillery, and air attacks?


You are in extremely dense person. You really think the U.S. military is going to carpet bomb cities with innocent bystanders in it? They sort of need tax payers to continue to extract our wealth and power.

You think if there were a hot war other countries/groups wouldn't supply us with military grade weapons? You think gun owners wouldn't get mod kits for their arms?

Guerilla warfare has always been effective against foreign invaders with superior technology.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19380 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:36 am to
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No country in their right mind would ever try to take the US.

It's impossible....our own government cant control us. We have more guns than most armies.


The US military budget is $750 billion. Next closest nation is China at $179 billion.
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:43 am to
Anybody who has ever been in the army could see this coming a mile away. From desegregation on the Army has been used as a mode and method of societal change. And when the army is given a job, an order, or directive it is implemented. One really doesn’t get the option of implementing a policy or order but having private reservations. I mean, as an officer or NCO, you can have them, but you damned well can’t express them in the slightest. As such, you have to be careful.

All it takes one true believer to become a battalion or brigade commander and he will make it his mission to root out those who aren’t sufficiently onboard with the agenda. The guys who are all in get the top OERs and move on to become battalion and brigade commanders themselves. The guys who aren’t, don’t and get out at twenty as an LTC or more likely, after five or six as an O-3 and move on with life. The guys who were Brigade and Battalion commanders get stars and start weeding out everyone. Soon, the whole damned army is a social justice converged mess.

The military is more susceptible to this sort of thing than any other organization because the concept of the private man separate and apart from his job is at the very least abbreviated. One has to be all in because one can literally order others to die. If you order others to do things you really don’t believe yourself, it becomes apparent pretty quickly and good order and discipline break down.
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 9:59 am to
No army, foreign or domestic, is going to conquer WV. I don’t know which is more hostile either, the people, or the terrain.

There are plenty of places like WV in the US.

The problem for us is that, sure, if this was a war, we’d win.

It’s not a war though.

It’s a political battle, and they control all of the major institutions in the country, from your church, to your school. You watch their propaganda on the news, and you read it in the paper. And it’s every other word in the movies and in the television shows they produce. It’s also all of the books they publish, and the music they release.

Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
853 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:10 am to
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It’s largely for personal incentive


This has been my experience as well. Everyone tries to romanticize the volunteer aspect of military service, but it is largely based on what is best for the individual, just like almost everything else we do.

Most of the kids joining today have been under the influence of leftist indoctrination their entire lives. The factory will keep churning out compliant soldiers, airmen, sailors, and marines.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25409 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:12 am to
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I’ve never met a fellow service member who joined on behalf of the country or government.


Maintenance or cook?
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6387 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:14 am to
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The US military budget is $750 billion. Next closest nation is China at $179 billion.


Based on our "stimulus" bills I would assume that 700 billion of that 750 is for "free" f-35s for Iran and North Korea.
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:15 am to
The problem is that any organization that is not explicitly conservative and anti-SJW, eventually becomes completely converged with SJWs. You have to root them out and fire them at the first hint of SJW idiocy, or they rise in the organization and eventually take over.

The civic nationalism America is an idea colorblind bullshite that your average Republican has bought into hook line and sinker over the last fifty years make them especially vulnerable to this bullshite. I mean, if you can’t even correctly identify your enemy amongst yourselves because it isn’t politically correct, what hope do you have of winning the war?
This post was edited on 3/9/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12802 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:17 am to
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The number of Trans people will sky rocket.

Health insurance that pays for surgery! They are set.

Number of trannies is going to be at an all time high! What a military.

They will not be able to fight at all, but they will all dress faaaaabulously
One of my best friends almost didn't get in, back in the 90's, because he stupidly admitted to smoking pot.

Fast forward to today. They are enlisting people with known psychological disorders.

We are witnessing the fall of a modern Rome.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25409 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:18 am to
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I'll take "shite that never happened" for $200 Alex.


You're hopelessly naive if you think conversations like that aren't happening all across the country regarding vets and their children.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:19 am to
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Just my story. I have a 17 year old that was considering the military upon graduation. A’s and B’s in the honors and advanced placement program and a multi sport athlete. A couple of weeks ago the recruiter called me and asked if I was still encouraging my son to join. My response was “You want me to send my son to die in some Middle East shithole while Hunter Biden gets rich doing nothing but coke and under age girls? No thanks. If he wants to fine but I’m not encouraging it.”


Don't take it out on the recruiter. They don't set policy and have to work with what they have.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25409 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:19 am to
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The military is more susceptible to this sort of thing than any other organization


Good statement. A lot of people don't understand this.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6881 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:20 am to
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Gonna plummet faster than the rise of gas prices. I can’t imagine any red blooded American parent encouraging their kid to serve under this regime.


I expect it to plummet and Democrats offer illegals flooding in a path to citizenship by signing up. Think French Foreign Legion except we probably won’t demand recruits learn English like they require French.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12802 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:24 am to
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Don't take it out on the recruiter. They don't set policy and have to work with what they have.

When the recruiter has to answer for falling for enlistment numbers, don't you think he will cite this as one of the reasons? Don't think for a second, the brass doesn't delve deep into why things aren't going as wished.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
12802 posts
Posted on 3/9/21 at 10:25 am to
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Good statement. A lot of people don't understand this.



Here's a thought. If enlistment numbers drop dramatically, how long before the subject of draft is started?
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