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re: How does the cost of Healthcare come down?

Posted on 6/29/25 at 6:05 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154788 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 6:05 pm to
I knew you couldn’t back up your claim.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22325 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 6:16 pm to
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Thai doctors work cheaper than US doctors.


No shite...
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19884 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Americans have to stop eating garbage and being fat as frick


This will help but the true increase was the drastic increase in middle management & hospital administrators since ObamaCare was implemented. The number of clinicians has stayed about equal while the layers of bureaucrats has tripled?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 6/29/25 at 10:08 pm to
Sorry but you can’t blame this shite just on Obamacare or socialism this is lack of competition and greed gone wild. I started studying this shite in the 90s when the medical care rate of inflation was almost 10% annually and a threat to the general economic outlook of the country.

Our entire system is ridiculous with just a small percentage of the cost actually going to heathcare and the rest to administrative and insurance expenses.

We have created a monster
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16061 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:01 am to
It’s a real problem

We have a capitalist medical model and with that, there’s going to be some “fat” in the cost of service and material.

With that, it’s in the best interest of any medical practitioner, pharmaceutical company or anyone else involved, to model their business for profitable growth. That will generally mean that the guidance will be on treating the illness or disease rather than prevention of the illness or disease.

We’re on our own for that.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135735 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:24 am to
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We have a capitalist medical model

No.

If we had a "capitalist medical model," the best and worst physicians in their fields would not be compensated identically for individual procedures. But in fact they are reimbursed identically.

At best we have a hybrid system..
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2969 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:55 am to
Fun fact even though it's nearly impossible to see an actual MD these days your health insurance is still paying $700 for you to go see a nurse practitioner that's looking at a checklist to diagnose you that did 16 months and night school and I'll just preface that with my primary right now as a nurse practitioner before her was a nurse practitioner and I think they're great and they're fantastic but I've also been around the block and I know that they are not the norm
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8701 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:12 am to
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If you need healthcare, find someone who offers healthcare, buy healthcare services, pay in cash.

You are paying 25 middle men for your healthcare.

Stop.


Uh, explain that one to parents of children with hemophilia or cancer. We have one. Without insurance, there would have been no coverage, he'd probably be dead by now, or we'd have had to file for bankruptcy.

No one should have to face financial ruin because of health issues beyond their control. We should be providing some kind of safety net for everyone in this country.

The average annual cost for a person living with hemophilia in the U.S. can be staggering—typically ranging from $300,000 to $500,000 per year for adults with moderate to severe forms. The lion’s share of this cost comes from antihemophilic medications, especially clotting factor replacement therapies.


Costs


Total treatment costs for childhood cancer can exceed $800,000 over the course of care, especially for aggressive or relapsed cases.

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Focus more on lifestyle issues and "administrative bloat" if you want to have a serious impact in containing costs.

Public health initiatives that reduce smoking, obesity, and sedentary behavior can lower the incidence of costly chronic conditions like diabetes and heart disease.

Also, the U.S. spends about four times more on healthcare administration than countries with single-payer or more centralized systems. And much of that cost doesn’t improve outcomes—it just keeps the machinery running.

Trends in Healthcare Spending
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
20189 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:48 am to
I saw a documentary on this that explained how the billing works.

Basically, hospitals charge some astronomical number (think $40 for one ibuprofen) and that is what is "billed" but the insurance company (in network) only pays $.01 for it.

Really gets you out of network, without insurance, or below a deductible/above a maximum.
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