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How do you love democracy and hate populism simultaneously?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:18 pm
We must save our democracy by defeating populism.
That’s the argument in a nutshell from the TDS infected. It makes no sense.
That’s the argument in a nutshell from the TDS infected. It makes no sense.
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:20 pm to GumboPot
I'm not sure who you think you're arguing against but I haven't seen anyone make this claim that you just imagined out of thin air
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:20 pm to GumboPot
When your democracy is really oligarchy
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:23 pm to SCLibertarian
Controligarchs 
The neo liberal World Order must remain firmly entrenched .
The neo liberal World Order must remain firmly entrenched .
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:25 pm to GumboPot
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How do you love democracy
Do we? Clinton would've won in 2016 with democracy
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by defeating populism.
Populism can take many shapes and forms. There's no principles to it.
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That’s the argument in a nutshell from the TDS infected. It makes no sense.
Who?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:28 pm to GumboPot
Do you think democracy and populism are the same thing?
Historically, does populism lead to more control by the people or less in the long run?
Historically, does populism lead to more control by the people or less in the long run?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:30 pm to Powerman
Ok, let’s reword it like this then:
How does one’s conclusion that populism (just that single term standing alone, because that’s simply the way it’s nearly always referenced), is an abomination reconcile with one’s opinion on democracy?? In other words, what views of democracy must likely follow, if one has a notably contemptible opinion of “populism” force certain views of “democracy” by op
How does one’s conclusion that populism (just that single term standing alone, because that’s simply the way it’s nearly always referenced), is an abomination reconcile with one’s opinion on democracy?? In other words, what views of democracy must likely follow, if one has a notably contemptible opinion of “populism” force certain views of “democracy” by op
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:32 pm to davyjones
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Ok, let’s reword it like this then:
Your prose sucks
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:34 pm to Powerman
You have no answers. And everyone knows I’m smarter than you. So step off, son.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:35 pm to the808bass
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Do you think democracy and populism are the same thing?
All I know is the current iteration of these terms is that Trump’s populists support is a threat to democracy which we do not have in the U.S.
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Historically, does populism lead to more control by the people or less in the long run?
More control. Sometimes it led to terrible results and sometimes not.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:35 pm to GumboPot
Trump's only a populist on the campaign trail. He's a moderate Republican.
A populist would have
Built a wall - Trump didn't
Deport illegals - Trump barely deported any
Shrink the Gov. - Trump didn't
Control spending - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOJ/FBI - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOE - Trump didn't
Avoid the neo-cons - Trump didn't
etc...
Trump pretends to care about the ordinary citizen but spent more of his time with Bushies, Neo-cons, Democrats and establishment types. He did their bidding while you guys focused on Q shite and made excuses.
A populist would have
Built a wall - Trump didn't
Deport illegals - Trump barely deported any
Shrink the Gov. - Trump didn't
Control spending - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOJ/FBI - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOE - Trump didn't
Avoid the neo-cons - Trump didn't
etc...
Trump pretends to care about the ordinary citizen but spent more of his time with Bushies, Neo-cons, Democrats and establishment types. He did their bidding while you guys focused on Q shite and made excuses.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:37 pm to GumboPot
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All I know is the current iteration of these terms is that Trump’s populists support is a threat to democracy which we do not have in the U.S.
No one (virtually) on this board has been saying that.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:37 pm to GumboPot
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We must save our democracy by defeating populism.
I'm not a huge fan of democracy, seems to me that populism is a faction of democracy to me.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:38 pm to JoeHackett
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Trump's only a populist on the campaign trail.
True.
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He's a moderate Republican.
Because we live in a constitutional republic and it’s difficult for any politician to make drastic changes under this form of government.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:39 pm to JoeHackett
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Built a wall - Trump didn't
Deport illegals - Trump barely deported any
Shrink the Gov. - Trump didn't
Control spending - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOJ/FBI - Trump didn't
Clean out the DOE - Trump didn't
Avoid the neo-cons - Trump didn't
etc...
Trumps a PINO
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:40 pm to GumboPot
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Because we live in a constitutional republic and it’s difficult for any politician to make drastic changes under this form of government.
And even harder when you don't even try
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:41 pm to the808bass
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No one (virtually) on this board has been saying that.
I know it’s not this board. When I think of Trump being a threat to democracy my thoughts go back to comments made by Joe, Mika, Hillary and Biden.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:43 pm to davyjones
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And everyone knows I’m smarter than you
Wouldn't know it by your lackluster writing abilities.
Maybe you're brilliant but you suck at communicating
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:48 pm to GumboPot
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How do you love democracy
Well the left always calls the US a Democracy BUT we are not a Democracy. We are a Constitutional Republic. Ok so then one might say a Republic is a form of Democracy…sure if one is totally forgetting THE CONSTITUTION! We are multiple layers removed from a Democracy ON PURPOSE.
The argument gets super conflated by their feeble minds.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 5:55 pm to GumboPot
It'just a new word for some of these idiots to explain away why their guy is getting his arse kicked.
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