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How do you guys feel about no-knock warrants?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:36 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:36 am
Basically, are you for or against cops busting up into your house without presenting themselves.
Louisville, KY officially bans no-knock warrants...
Louisville, KY officially bans no-knock warrants...
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All 26 members of the Louisville Metro Council voted on Thursday to pass a ban on no-knock warrants, a measure known as “Breonna’s Law,” named after the former EMT who died in a police raid at her apartment.
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:37 am to finchmeister08
It’s a home invasion and I would treat it as such
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:38 am to finchmeister08
if its in favor of risk Mitigation with credible evidence i see no problem. Don't do stupid shite and you won't be getting raided.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:43 am to finchmeister08
Against. There's always a way to get your person.
I read a story years ago about a no knock on an Oregon family.
Wrong house....they had a mentally handicapped young girl and her family in their underwear outside in the rain while they ransacked the house.
I read a story years ago about a no knock on an Oregon family.
Wrong house....they had a mentally handicapped young girl and her family in their underwear outside in the rain while they ransacked the house.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:44 am to finchmeister08
Against, for narcotics and non violent felonies.
With the climate of race relations after the Summer of ‘16, we haven’t used them much. SWAT teams shouldn’t be blowing and going right now. Approach the targets heavy/with an obvious presence, breach the door, and loud call all contacts to exit.
If anyone chooses to remain inside the target, transition to treat the subject as a barricaded subject and introduce chemical less lethal to encourage a peaceful exit.
No-knock for narcotics is asking for trouble. If preservation of evidence is the concern, your case isn’t strong enough yet to warrant the execution of a the search/arrest warrant.
But let me be clear that they should not be completely banned. There are instances where the element of surprise is needed in order to save the lives of additional occupants and or keep the suspect from engaging officers and ultimately injuring or killing law enforcement or themselves.
With the climate of race relations after the Summer of ‘16, we haven’t used them much. SWAT teams shouldn’t be blowing and going right now. Approach the targets heavy/with an obvious presence, breach the door, and loud call all contacts to exit.
If anyone chooses to remain inside the target, transition to treat the subject as a barricaded subject and introduce chemical less lethal to encourage a peaceful exit.
No-knock for narcotics is asking for trouble. If preservation of evidence is the concern, your case isn’t strong enough yet to warrant the execution of a the search/arrest warrant.
But let me be clear that they should not be completely banned. There are instances where the element of surprise is needed in order to save the lives of additional occupants and or keep the suspect from engaging officers and ultimately injuring or killing law enforcement or themselves.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 12:52 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:44 am to finchmeister08
That shite shouldn't happen.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:47 am to finchmeister08
Definitely Against
No Knock Warrants are for the most part dangerous as hell for both the Police and the Occupants.
While there may be certain circumstances where it’s needed, most of them should be disallowed.
No Knock Warrants are for the most part dangerous as hell for both the Police and the Occupants.
While there may be certain circumstances where it’s needed, most of them should be disallowed.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:51 am to finchmeister08
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This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:53 am to finchmeister08
Against. Wait for them to leave the house and grab them.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:57 am to finchmeister08
I’ve always called them Waco Warrants.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:59 am to The People
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With the climate of race relations after the Summer of ‘16, we haven’t used them much. SWAT teams shouldn’t be blowing and going right now. Approach the targets heavy/with an obvious presence, breach the door, and loud call all contacts to exit.
So still basically a no knock.
Kick my door in and you'll have quite a reception dickhead.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:01 am to BuckyCheese
So If the Government is granted a search warrant by a Judge, you think law enforcement should wait till they receive an answer to execute it? For evidence used in a narcotics case for example.
You can’t be this naive.
ETA: Obvious presence is meant to also include announcing police with a search warrant as well before knocking. Wasn’t in the original post, added to avoid confusion.
You can’t be this naive.
ETA: Obvious presence is meant to also include announcing police with a search warrant as well before knocking. Wasn’t in the original post, added to avoid confusion.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 1:05 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:02 am to finchmeister08
Against in any drug or non-violent cases. Reserved for only the most dangerous violent offenders and a judge should have to sign off on a no-knock being permissible in those cases
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:05 am to finchmeister08
No knock warrants should be reserved for the most extreme circumstances (Hostage situation, terror suspect, charged with murder or worse) and require two separate judges to sign the warrant with an accompanying plan of action that requires the warrant serving agents identify the address and the appearance of said building.
While we are at it we should ban civil asset forfeture.
While we are at it we should ban civil asset forfeture.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:06 am to finchmeister08
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This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:07 am to LSU2a
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identify the address and the appearance of said building.
Yea, this is already done. We include digital pictures of the house now.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:14 am to finchmeister08
Against. I can’t imagine a case that you have advance knowledge you’re going to need to enter without warning.
It’s an unsafe situation for everyone
It’s an unsafe situation for everyone
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:18 am to The People
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Yea, this is already done. We include digital pictures of the house now
So you speak for every police and sheriff department in this country?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:34 am to momentoftruth87
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Don't do stupid shite and you won't be getting raided.
Not true
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 1:35 am
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:13 am to DyeHardDylan
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It’s a home invasion and I would treat it as such
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