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re: How do you deprogram these people?

Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:49 am to
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15899 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:49 am to
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feel like America is lost. We have the loony left who can't tell a man from a woman and think "taxing billionaires" would pay for a utopian society where everyone has everything they could possibly want or need.


As has been said, the left is the cult.

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the other hand though a cult has taken over the right who idolizes not the nation but a politician, and have no qualm with twisting logic into a pretzel and abandoning their principles at the drop of a hat to rationalize everything he says


I just don't see this. There are things that trump did incorrectly. They are called out here. However we understand that no one is perfect and you have a binary choice and trump is way better than biden.

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Worse everything is a conspiracy and they seem to have an outright hatred for the country.


You think the right has an outright hate for this country? That is clearly the left. And I also blame the left for many of the conspiracy theories after having the left control the press, social media and the internet too push their agenda and push outright lies as fact and saying that covid didn't escape from a lab, that the laptop was disinformation and that trump was was a Russian agent.

They created the conspiracy treadmill.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61751 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:51 am to
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So you're saying he's dumb or dishonest?


I’m saying you misinterpreted his post.

Make your case. Where did he equate those two things? Your emotion made you, again, misinterpret what he posted.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:52 am to
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Where did he equate those two things? Y


In his question

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If singing happy birthday to Trump means you're in a cult, what about this?


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Your emotion made you, again, misinterpret what he posted.

So you tell me, what is your interpretation of what he said, if it wasn't a comparison between the 2 things
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116649 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:53 am to
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Trumpism isn't on the right side of the spectrum, though.


Yes, it is. That's why his followers are called 'The Extreme Right Wingers.'
Try to pay attention.

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MAGA is a small, splinter faction of "the right".


No, it's the biggest I've seen since Reagan. Perhaps you'd like to name another president besides Reagan who had a larger right wing base. Go ahead.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294292 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:54 am to
You cant.

People dont want to think. They'll accept every MSM or biased narrative that fits their ideals.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92869 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:55 am to
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Then I saw who he really was and that he was just another slimy politician in it for himself


Can you please provide any proof to this stupid cnn talking point?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:59 am to
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Yes, it is. That's why his followers are called 'The Extreme Right Wingers.'

That's idiotic Leftists in the press creating talking point for their NPCs

Trumpism is for regulation, interference with the free market, redistributive welfare programs, etc. That's Leftism. That's why even MAGA often compares his politics to Clinton.

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Perhaps you'd like to name another president besides Reagan who had a larger right wing base. Go ahead.

You can pick almost any. MAGA has enough support for about 1 Senator about 10 Congressmen.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31243 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 11:59 am to
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You cant.

People dont want to think. They'll accept every MSM or biased narrative that fits their ideals.



Unfortunately this is where we are as a country and I don’t see any way out. Possibly get rid of the internet but I don’t see that happening
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116649 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:03 pm to
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That's idiotic Leftists in the press creating talking point for their NPCs


Oh, it's just the press? So, people voting for Biden say "I'm not voting for Trump because he's too left wing."

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Trumpism is for regulation, interference with the free market, redistributive welfare programs, etc

De-Reg and Lower taxes.

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You can pick almost any.

Except that you can't pick one.

Don't you feel stupid typing this shite?

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88144 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Trumpism isn't on the right side of the spectrum, though.





LINK
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100090 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:06 pm to
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How do you deprogram these people?


5.56mm brain surgery
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
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De-Reg and Lower taxes.

Those were GOPE policies Trump signed into law.

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Except that you can't pick one.

I can pick literally any other GOP President that had more than 1 Senator and 10 Congressmen of his party.

Since Reagan, there are only 3 options, so both Bush Presidencies is the answer.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
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You guys don’t know what a cult is. You’re the odd balls who can’t fit in and a very very small group.


THIS

david the troll is a clown loser.

Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88144 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:12 pm to
oh and trump being pro america on trade does not make that stance bad. look how many other countries do this.

obama and clinton liked fake free trade also and that did not make them right wingers or pro america.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35299 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:14 pm to
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1 year of a solid economy where people can actually buy a few more things then they could the past 3-4 years - they will come to their senses

People had three absolutely excellent financial years under Trump and still managed to let the media convince them that he was literally Hitler and destroying the very fabric of the universe.

You just can't fix an entire multiple-generation swath of people who live in an internet age of instant gratification that has programmed them to accept buzz-word and disingenuous headlines as "the whole truth" and let the "free press" tell them what opinions they should hold.

There's no fixing "sheeple". They actually believe and profess that the First Amendment is "harmful", completely bereft of the irony that it is the First Amendment that gives them the freedom to have that opinion in the first place. They are willing to trade their freedoms for comfort and an artificial sense of safety.




Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:15 pm to
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oh and trump being pro america on trade does not make that stance bad. l

I said it made him a pro-regulation and anti-capitalism. Neither of those things are conservative or right-based. I didn't make a qualitative assessment of the policies (which your post implies).

Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6040 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
For the people in the tiktok, you cannot unless they do so for themselves. They have abandoned all logic and reason and have a religious like reverence for Trump, too far gone.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
15660 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:20 pm to
The country is effed... The left has control of the media, the DOJ and all the lower courts, the AG's and the DA's... The FBI... They did all this before our eyes... Like I have said the end goal is to get rid of the Constitution.. The left has proven that they don't respect nor pay attention to the Constitution.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92869 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:21 pm to
You are the exact same as them but with any Dem put in front of you

Hypocrite
Posted by DotBling
Member since Oct 2019
3166 posts
Posted on 6/16/24 at 12:23 pm to
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a cult has taken over the right who idolizes not the nation but a politician


You fricked up right there. Try again.
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