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re: How do gay people like being lumped in with legit mentally ill people?

Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by tommy2tone1999
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:42 pm to
Have you ever witnessed someone with a mental illness being called crazy?
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:44 pm to
No, I would choose to be more discrete with a person who did not choose to be abnormal.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:47 pm to
Being queer is an abomination.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Being queer is an abomination.


Nonsense, being gay is either

A) a perversion chosen by some , and if that's the case they have a right to their consensual perversion.

or

B) A mental illness which should be treated.

There are no other options
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Yes, let's ignore the fraught history of the use of that word to apply to humans with deformities and/or other abnormalities. Everyone - including you - knows that it is coarse and unkind to use it like this. If any of you had a child that was struggling with this, it seems highly unlikely to me you would encourage that child to be referred to as a "freak".



We are being forced to accept this freakish behavior as normal and acceptable. It is not. They are the ones drawing the line in the sand. If my kid chose to act out in this way, I would still love them and not call them a freak (even though they are) but I would also tell them to get used to it.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:54 pm to
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Nonsense, being gay is either

A) a perversion chosen by some , and if that's the case they have a right to their consensual perversion.

or

B) A mental illness which should be treated.

There are no other options
Neither of those options contradict the statement:

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Being queer is an abomination.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:58 pm to
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They
Who is "they"?

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If my kid chose to act out in this way


So it's not an illness? It's a "choice"?

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I would still love them and not call them a freak


Why not choose to spread some civility to your neighbor as you would extend to your own child? You know, Golden Rule and all.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 1:58 pm to
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Neither of those options contradict the statement:


of course not, but it is not an "abomination"

first lets recognize that it's actually a choice of consensual perversion. Is your choice of consensual perversion an abomination? No
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46018 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:06 pm to
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of course not, but it is not an "abomination"
I suppose what the other poster should have done was clarify to whom homosexuality is considered an abomination. I assumed based on the mere usage of the word "abomination" that the context was a religious one and therefore the user likely means that homosexuality is an abomination to God and should be to Christians, also.

If that context is accurate, I would agree with the other person that homosexuality is an abomination (disgusting and intolerable act) to God and to Christianity.

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first lets recognize that it's actually a choice of consensual perversion.
Homosexual acts are always a choice unless rape is involved. There's a difference between lust and attraction and acting on those things.

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Is your choice of consensual perversion an abomination? No
I believe it is, yes. You might think it's fine, but there are all sorts of people who think all sorts of things are perfectly fine even when those things are generally not tolerated within various societies or their own specific society.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
15867 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:06 pm to
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What are you talking about? Is this specifically about gender identification? Because I certainly don't see people suffering from BP, depression, and other mental illnesses asking to be put on a pedestal or praised. Most just want fricking help. As for the whole gender identity thing, I don't see that as mental illness per se. I think there are people who are truly wired in their psyche differently from the anatomy they were born with. I've got no problem with them being what ever they want to be. But no, they don't get to demand special treatment or get to be heralded as some sort of heroes in their bravery. Just do your own thing quietly, no one fricking cares.


THIS!!!....except 100% opposite of all of it
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1727 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Who is "they"?


Anything other than heterosexual behavior.

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So it's not an illness? It's a "choice"?


I believe that aberrant sexual behavior can be both genetic and learned behavior. I also believe that one can choose to not act out on both.

I have a really bad temper, got in trouble when I was young because of it. I believe I am genetically predisposed to anger, but I chose in my teens to learn to control those impulses. I still struggle with it.

If I hurt someone because I was made that way, can I say it's not my fault?

Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63004 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:18 pm to
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Not the same


I've heard it described a chemical abnormality in the brain or something to that effect. Isn't that a mental illness?

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and they are not born that way


Of course not, but people who believe they are use this line of reasoning. I'm simply pointing out that those people are basically saying gays are born with mental illness.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 2:51 pm to
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Anything other than heterosexual behavior.
So 100% of non-heterosexuals are trying to "force" something onto you? Link?

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I believe that aberrant sexual behavior can be both genetic and learned behavior.


As do I. However, I don't like the word "aberrant". I also think with regard to homosexuality, it's likely to be overwhelmingly genetic. Also, sexuality is way more fluid than these rigid categories. e.g. Is it "aberrant" for me - an adult male - to like to witness acts of lesbianism? (something I've found that nearly 100% of males like.)

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I also believe that one can choose to not act out on both.


Sure, although if someone asked you to choose not to act on your heterosexual impulses, that would be an extremely tall order.

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If I hurt someone because I was made that way, can I say it's not my fault?


It would be your fault, but I would also think you deserved sympathy vis a vis the person who was not unlucky enough to be born with a bad temper.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
18690 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:15 pm to
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I have several thoughts on this issue, however I do plan on pitching in the MLB when I grow up


This is such an underrated post.

Bravo, GEAUX H TOWN
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58530 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 3:24 pm to
Mike pence discovered the cure for the gay. It’s caused by a voltage deficiency in their brain
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141650 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 4:45 pm to
Being gay is also a mental illness.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 4:54 pm to
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You took your bitch slapping pretty well.


It doesn't make it right just because a bunch of idiots think it's okay
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18941 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:01 pm to
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probably in 15-20 years the same thing will be demanded for pedophilia.


Always with this dumb shite. It’s incredible you don’t understand the difference between two consenting adults who are the same gender and predators who want to frick kids.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by TigerBait1971
PTC GA
Member since Oct 2014
16130 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:39 pm to
We only had one gay person reply.

Is that all we have on TD?

I watch TV and assume half the population is gay.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1727 posts
Posted on 7/30/18 at 5:39 pm to
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So 100% of non-heterosexuals are trying to "force" something onto you? Link?


The lesbian, gay, trans ... movement is trying to force me to accept their way of life as normal and equivalent to heterosexuality. I cannot.

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As do I. However, I don't like the word "aberrant".


I think the word aberrant is appropriate.

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if someone asked you to choose not to act on your heterosexual impulses, that would be an extremely tall order.


Under God's law it is acceptable to act out on my hetero tendencies within the confines of my marriage. When I step out of those confines (and I have) I sin no differently than any other sexual sin.

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If I hurt someone because I was made that way, can I say it's not my fault?


It would be your fault, but I would also think you deserved sympathy vis a vis the person who was not unlucky enough to be born with a bad temper.


When I sin, I face the consequences. God does have sympathy for us when we ask to be forgiven (JESUS). Some people do the same. I just don't think we deserve forgiveness when we look God in the face (or another human being) and try to deny we have offended him.

This is the whole problem for me, Big Scrub, I simply cannot let another person force me to deny what I believe about God. I simply cannot.
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