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re: How did this guy NOT get shot, if our SS is so damn great?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:04 pm to TFH
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:04 pm to TFH
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Why are you so worked up about something you don’t actually know?
What dont we know. He charged and shot a cop...and continued charging and firing...
Please tell us in whatever experience you possess, why that doesnt constitute lethal return of fire
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:34 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Please tell us in whatever experience you possess, why that doesnt constitute lethal return of fire
So there’s a guy running through a crowded room and you want the gamers to all start blasting away? Good call, Joe Biden.
They tackled the guy and now we have a live subject to interrogate, what exactly is the problem?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:28 pm to TFH
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through a crowded room and
Please show a video of said "crowded room"
Ive seen a few vida and room has a bunch of security.....not crowds
And yes, if a guy is a threat to an imaginary crowd, all the more reason to drop him.
But to be clear, in your mind, a gun shooting security breach should be allowed to run where he wants?
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live subject
Thats my problem. Here's what YOU get for your "interrogation "
A bunch of insane liberals get to watch a hero of theirs survive an attack and watch him become some sort of hero to them, with very low implications, except for jail
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:52 pm to ChatGPT of LA
It was staged, that's why
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:58 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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ChatGPT of LA
You might be the dumbest person I have conversed with on here.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 2:04 pm to TFH
Run away little boy...run home to mommy
Or, be a man and answer
Or, be a man and answer
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:00 pm to tide06
Sounds like you watch too many movies and don’t understand how things work in the real world, especially law enforcement.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 4:32 am to Tigerbait8
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Sounds like you watch too many movies and don’t understand how things work in the real world, especially law enforcement.
My post and opinion is based on the expert opinions and interviews with professional operators who have performed protection details globally for decades outlining what they saw from three near assassination attempts now.
Our secret service is outgunned, outmanned from a tech and staffing standpoint and has people who clearly and repeatedly are unable and untrained in how to respond to and prevent Trump from being put in situations where an assassin could be successful.
The fact that you can see the threat responses and fail to understand how fortunate the details were to avoid losing the President going back pre-Butler isn’t an indictment on my knowledge but yours.
Our “law enforcement” function (which this isn’t “law enforcement” it’s a protection detail which is a different thing altogether) isn’t up to the task right now and continues to prove it even if there are outstanding individuals doing the best they can with their resources and guidance such as the guy who took a round and still fired on the assassin this week and the one on the golf course who saved the president there.
But the fact that that sniper on the golf course was there and unknown to the presidents detail until it came down to one guy charging a snipers location solo with a side arm tells anyone paying attention all they need to know.
The situation at Butler was even worse.
Had that been a hit squad with trained operators the president and everyone on his detail were dead along with anyone in the crowd they felt like taking out.
No one gives a **** about whether a special forces guy is ready to read someone their Miranda rights or deescalate a situation, the job of the presidential protection detail is to protect the president and that isn’t happening at a sufficient level relative to the potential threats he faces right now.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 6:50 am to Night Vision
SS fired six shots at the asshat in FL who tried to kill Trump while he was playing golf. All 6 shots missed. SS left a rooftop unsecure, which led to a perfect vantage point for a shot. Shooter missed by 2 inches. This weekend, SS allowed a guy to run past security, firing shots and hits one officer. Imagine if that was suicide bomber.
The point is, the Secret Service is just one giant failure after another, and those are just 3 examples in recent history.
The point is, the Secret Service is just one giant failure after another, and those are just 3 examples in recent history.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:06 am to Swamp Angel
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There have GOT to be other hands involved.
WHAT!? A lone gunman tries to execute an absolutely harebrained attack, and you conclude there HAS to be others involved?
Also, this guy got through a STEM degree but was too stupid to case the place in advance and realize there is zero chance to get to the president. He almost has to be insane and working alone.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:12 am to Penrod
There may or may not have been others involved. Having him taken into custody alive allows for a good investigation into that possibility. If he acted alone, then okay. But it certainly is better to be able to question him and determine how he arrived at the point he decided to take such action.
I find it somewhat telling that you have arrived at the conclusion that there were no external influences that led to his action and that you aren't interested in any further investigation along those lines.
I find it somewhat telling that you have arrived at the conclusion that there were no external influences that led to his action and that you aren't interested in any further investigation along those lines.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:13 am to davyjones
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Little known fact believe it or not, the human head produces red, white and blue mist when blown to shite.
I have never heard that. I googled it and did not come across the red, white and blue bit, although I only checked three references.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:01 pm to Swamp Angel
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find it somewhat telling that you have arrived at the conclusion that there were no external influences that led to his action and that you aren't interested in any further investigation along those lines.
External influences? No, I never said that. I said that it's unlikely that he had co-conspirators. Not impossible. Unlikely.
ETA: and of course, there should be investigations!
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:16 pm to Penrod
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External influences? No, I never said that. I said that it's unlikely that he had co-conspirators. Not impossible. Unlikely.
ETA: and of course, there should be investigations!
Fair enough. I can't find anything I disagree with there.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:45 pm to ChatGPT of LA
I imagine he tripped and fell, that is how he was subdued, the bullets missed, going over him lying on the floor.
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:54 pm to weagle1999
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Maybe the agent was hit by another agent (friendly fire)
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:25 pm to ChatGPT of LA
Is there no video of him being tackled?
Only thing I could hypothetically suggest is once he got past the metal detectors and the first line of defense. SS would be firing at each other to potentially neutralize the threat. Split second decision to tackle and neutralize in order to not be caught in crossfire? Who knows
Only thing I could hypothetically suggest is once he got past the metal detectors and the first line of defense. SS would be firing at each other to potentially neutralize the threat. Split second decision to tackle and neutralize in order to not be caught in crossfire? Who knows
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:32 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Feel free to not be a dick, and actually answer. Guy SHOT A COP and was still shooting.
I'll take a stab at it.
They were in a lobby, where he was not threat to the POTUS and all of they guys with guns in the video saw a bunch of their guys tackling the perp. If the POTUS is not in danger, I'm NOT shooting at a guy who has a bunch of friendlies all over him.
The last thing you want is to shoot one of your own. Imagine how many Keyatone cops stories you would be telling if the SS killed one or two of their own...
Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:23 pm to Jax-Tiger
I’m wondering why the SS didn’t do background checks on people staying at the hotel. A family member of his reported him to authorities about some of his crazy talk.
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