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re: How did this guy NOT get shot, if our SS is so damn great?

Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6278 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Why are you so worked up about something you don’t actually know?


What dont we know. He charged and shot a cop...and continued charging and firing...

Please tell us in whatever experience you possess, why that doesnt constitute lethal return of fire
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4212 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 12:34 pm to
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Please tell us in whatever experience you possess, why that doesnt constitute lethal return of fire

So there’s a guy running through a crowded room and you want the gamers to all start blasting away? Good call, Joe Biden.

They tackled the guy and now we have a live subject to interrogate, what exactly is the problem?
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6278 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:28 pm to
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through a crowded room and


Please show a video of said "crowded room"

Ive seen a few vida and room has a bunch of security.....not crowds

And yes, if a guy is a threat to an imaginary crowd, all the more reason to drop him.

But to be clear, in your mind, a gun shooting security breach should be allowed to run where he wants?
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live subject


Thats my problem. Here's what YOU get for your "interrogation "
A bunch of insane liberals get to watch a hero of theirs survive an attack and watch him become some sort of hero to them, with very low implications, except for jail
Posted by TigersBucs
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2009
1814 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:52 pm to
It was staged, that's why
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4212 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 1:58 pm to
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ChatGPT of LA

You might be the dumbest person I have conversed with on here.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
6278 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 2:04 pm to
Run away little boy...run home to mommy

Or, be a man and answer
Posted by Tigerbait8
Member since Aug 2012
2478 posts
Posted on 4/27/26 at 11:00 pm to
Sounds like you watch too many movies and don’t understand how things work in the real world, especially law enforcement.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23290 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 4:32 am to
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Sounds like you watch too many movies and don’t understand how things work in the real world, especially law enforcement.

My post and opinion is based on the expert opinions and interviews with professional operators who have performed protection details globally for decades outlining what they saw from three near assassination attempts now.

Our secret service is outgunned, outmanned from a tech and staffing standpoint and has people who clearly and repeatedly are unable and untrained in how to respond to and prevent Trump from being put in situations where an assassin could be successful.

The fact that you can see the threat responses and fail to understand how fortunate the details were to avoid losing the President going back pre-Butler isn’t an indictment on my knowledge but yours.

Our “law enforcement” function (which this isn’t “law enforcement” it’s a protection detail which is a different thing altogether) isn’t up to the task right now and continues to prove it even if there are outstanding individuals doing the best they can with their resources and guidance such as the guy who took a round and still fired on the assassin this week and the one on the golf course who saved the president there.

But the fact that that sniper on the golf course was there and unknown to the presidents detail until it came down to one guy charging a snipers location solo with a side arm tells anyone paying attention all they need to know.

The situation at Butler was even worse.

Had that been a hit squad with trained operators the president and everyone on his detail were dead along with anyone in the crowd they felt like taking out.

No one gives a **** about whether a special forces guy is ready to read someone their Miranda rights or deescalate a situation, the job of the presidential protection detail is to protect the president and that isn’t happening at a sufficient level relative to the potential threats he faces right now.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15059 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 6:50 am to
SS fired six shots at the asshat in FL who tried to kill Trump while he was playing golf. All 6 shots missed. SS left a rooftop unsecure, which led to a perfect vantage point for a shot. Shooter missed by 2 inches. This weekend, SS allowed a guy to run past security, firing shots and hits one officer. Imagine if that was suicide bomber.

The point is, the Secret Service is just one giant failure after another, and those are just 3 examples in recent history.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55459 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:06 am to
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There have GOT to be other hands involved.

WHAT!? A lone gunman tries to execute an absolutely harebrained attack, and you conclude there HAS to be others involved?

Also, this guy got through a STEM degree but was too stupid to case the place in advance and realize there is zero chance to get to the president. He almost has to be insane and working alone.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10168 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:12 am to
There may or may not have been others involved. Having him taken into custody alive allows for a good investigation into that possibility. If he acted alone, then okay. But it certainly is better to be able to question him and determine how he arrived at the point he decided to take such action.

I find it somewhat telling that you have arrived at the conclusion that there were no external influences that led to his action and that you aren't interested in any further investigation along those lines.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55459 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:13 am to
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Little known fact believe it or not, the human head produces red, white and blue mist when blown to shite.

I have never heard that. I googled it and did not come across the red, white and blue bit, although I only checked three references.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74846 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 7:14 am to
thanks Clay Travis
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55459 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

find it somewhat telling that you have arrived at the conclusion that there were no external influences that led to his action and that you aren't interested in any further investigation along those lines.

External influences? No, I never said that. I said that it's unlikely that he had co-conspirators. Not impossible. Unlikely.

ETA: and of course, there should be investigations!
This post was edited on 4/28/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10168 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:16 pm to
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External influences? No, I never said that. I said that it's unlikely that he had co-conspirators. Not impossible. Unlikely.

ETA: and of course, there should be investigations!


Fair enough. I can't find anything I disagree with there.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
1644 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:45 pm to
I imagine he tripped and fell, that is how he was subdued, the bullets missed, going over him lying on the floor.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32733 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 1:54 pm to
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Maybe the agent was hit by another agent (friendly fire)
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11784 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:25 pm to
Is there no video of him being tackled?

Only thing I could hypothetically suggest is once he got past the metal detectors and the first line of defense. SS would be firing at each other to potentially neutralize the threat. Split second decision to tackle and neutralize in order to not be caught in crossfire? Who knows
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27848 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 2:32 pm to
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Feel free to not be a dick, and actually answer. Guy SHOT A COP and was still shooting.


I'll take a stab at it.

They were in a lobby, where he was not threat to the POTUS and all of they guys with guns in the video saw a bunch of their guys tackling the perp. If the POTUS is not in danger, I'm NOT shooting at a guy who has a bunch of friendlies all over him.

The last thing you want is to shoot one of your own. Imagine how many Keyatone cops stories you would be telling if the SS killed one or two of their own...
Posted by Squedunk
Texas Hill Country
Member since Jun 2008
892 posts
Posted on 4/28/26 at 3:23 pm to
I’m wondering why the SS didn’t do background checks on people staying at the hotel. A family member of his reported him to authorities about some of his crazy talk.
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