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re: How desperate are companies for workers? Target will now pay 100% of college tuition
Posted on 9/12/21 at 3:28 pm to AustinAggie
Posted on 9/12/21 at 3:28 pm to AustinAggie
Free market? Are you high?
First, it wasn't the free market that caused the recent desperation for workers. If that was the case, then we would have seen a massive rise in wages throughout the 2000s and 2010s nothing has changed from then to today in the 2020s except for one thing.
It was the global pandemic, pre-existing inhumane working conditions, and the fact that workers finally had a little wiggle room to negotiate with their bosses because of the raises to unemployment benefits and the stimulus checks. Otherwise, they simply wouldn't be able to "afford" to quit their jobs and companies would have kept their slave wages at the exact same rate as before.
Second, no shite Sherlock. Of course, colleges are more expensive because of government assistance. That's the whole point, they increase taxes to fund those programs, yet have no laws whatsoever that limit how much a school can charge for tuition. Hence, all that money gets taken directly from the American people and is placed right into the hands of the colleges. This is no mistake, it isn't idiocy on the part of the government, it's deliberate. The federal government is bought and paid for by the wealthy, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. It's the same retarded argument people use for not increasing the minimum wage. Of course, prices would increase, that's what happens when you try to fix a symptom instead of the disease.
First, it wasn't the free market that caused the recent desperation for workers. If that was the case, then we would have seen a massive rise in wages throughout the 2000s and 2010s nothing has changed from then to today in the 2020s except for one thing.
It was the global pandemic, pre-existing inhumane working conditions, and the fact that workers finally had a little wiggle room to negotiate with their bosses because of the raises to unemployment benefits and the stimulus checks. Otherwise, they simply wouldn't be able to "afford" to quit their jobs and companies would have kept their slave wages at the exact same rate as before.
Second, no shite Sherlock. Of course, colleges are more expensive because of government assistance. That's the whole point, they increase taxes to fund those programs, yet have no laws whatsoever that limit how much a school can charge for tuition. Hence, all that money gets taken directly from the American people and is placed right into the hands of the colleges. This is no mistake, it isn't idiocy on the part of the government, it's deliberate. The federal government is bought and paid for by the wealthy, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. It's the same retarded argument people use for not increasing the minimum wage. Of course, prices would increase, that's what happens when you try to fix a symptom instead of the disease.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 4:19 pm to Omegasix321
Pretty much everywhere I have ever worked has offered "free college" tuition, but there are always catches.
You must maintain a certain grade, or you repay
You must earn degree in certain timeframe
You must commit to stay with company for X years
It's a great benefit, sure, but let's get real.
-most "hourly" workers are not going to stick with it.
-the company will lord this benefit over them whenever the concept of pay raise, etc, comes up.
Eventually, the gubment will surely want to value that free tuition and tax it, right?
The actual company that runs this program administers programs for Walmart, Chipotle, Disney, Taco Bell, and others...
Curious if anyone here has successfully leveraged this into a real degree?
You must maintain a certain grade, or you repay
You must earn degree in certain timeframe
You must commit to stay with company for X years
It's a great benefit, sure, but let's get real.
-most "hourly" workers are not going to stick with it.
-the company will lord this benefit over them whenever the concept of pay raise, etc, comes up.
Eventually, the gubment will surely want to value that free tuition and tax it, right?
The actual company that runs this program administers programs for Walmart, Chipotle, Disney, Taco Bell, and others...
Curious if anyone here has successfully leveraged this into a real degree?
Posted on 9/12/21 at 4:25 pm to jatilen
JC Penney warehouse in Lenexa KS (KC metro) was displaying a sign pre Covid19 for warehouse workers $13/hr…now it’s $18/hr with a monthly performance bonus and a sign on bonus. All the low wage workers got a 30% wage increase and all of us idiots that worked throughout the pandemic got our usual 2-4% annual base pay increase. Have you noticed the Dims aren’t screaming for a $15/hour minimum wage anymore?
Posted on 9/12/21 at 5:09 pm to AustinAggie
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Good for them. Free market working. Companies realizing they can’t just offer slave wages to attract labor anymore.
They’ll get more, higher quality employees and those individuals will be more easily able to obtain a college degree and later contribute to society as an educated citizen.
Also friendly reminder that the only reason college is expensive is because of government involvement.
I agree with what you said except for the comment about "slave wages."
You are almost there.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 5:33 pm to AustinAggie
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obtain a college degree and later contribute to society as an educated citizen.
I don’t agree. I don’t think college will improve them, or that they will contribute more to society if they have a degree.
College radicalizes Americans, and teaches them unhealthy and destructive ideas.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 5:40 pm to AustinAggie
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Also friendly reminder that the only reason college is expensive is because of government involvement.
It’ll just get more expensive and meaningless if major corporations start subsidizing degrees.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 5:44 pm to AustinAggie
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Free market working.
Good for the people able to take advantage of this, but competing against government subsidies is not the free market.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 7:47 pm to jatilen
HMmm. Will they require the shot? Yes? Oh well no then I’ll work with the degree I have.
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