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re: How Dangerous is Russia’s New Nuclear-Tipped Air-to-Air Missile?

Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 8:29 am to
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when I provide sources

You don't you post badly prompted LLM returns and other Twitter claims.

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and context to support my argument

You can't be serious, there's no one who post lower quality unsupported material than you.

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Stop acting like this is some formal or academic research setting. It is a political message board

Which you interpret as a misinformation board.

Do you have no shame?
When others correct you you immediately go defensive, if all you are interested in is debate then why do you cling so fing hard to insisting that you are right?

Would it be that hard to admit obvious things like oh yeah maybe bombers don't fly in formation anymore.
Posted by Swamp Angel
West Georgia Chicken Farm Territory
Member since Jul 2004
10197 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:11 am to
Stop and use your brain for just one moment before getting bent out of shape about crap like this...

You are getting worked up because someone said the Russians might put nuclear "tips" on their Air-to-Air missiles. Does such a statement not immediately scream out "a freaking idiot made this statement"?

The statement continues that it would be very helpful to use nuclear tipped ATA missiles to counter stealth fighters such as the F-35. This means that in this scenario, a NATO F-35 would be flying in Russian airspace over Russian lands conducting strikes against Russian targets. Do you honestly think the Russians would use "nuclear-tipped" air-to-air missiles to engage an enemy target over their own territory? Do you realize that the impact of the weapon would be felt not only by the targeted enemy aircraft, but also by everyone within the blast range, everyone who might just happen to be looking that direction at the time of the warhead's detonation, and everyone who lived downwind of where the engagement took place?

I have a feeling that you get caught up too easily in the click-bait stories on the news sites you visit.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:30 am to
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You are getting worked up


How am I getting worked up? I just shared a article


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Does such a statement not immediately scream out "a freaking idiot made this statement"?


Our Government made the statement. Specifically a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency Report.


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This means that in this scenario, a NATO F-35 would be flying in Russian airspace over Russian lands conducting strikes against Russian targets. 


This is Incorrect. These missiles are long range and designed to be used against aircraft before they reach your territory.


"This allows Russian aircraft, such as the MiG-31BM, Su-35S, and potentially Su-57, to engage targets like AWACS, tankers, or fighters from standoff distances, remaining outside the range of most enemy air-to-air missiles."



Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4640 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I am Generally curious why you feel this way.


Have you seen their military capability the last 3 years. Everything they have said is a lie.
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Nah. After doing more research this seems to be aimed at taking out entire squadrons of aircraft with a low yield nuclear explosion at high altitude.

If you have to microwave something or drive somewhere you'd better get it before these sorts of hostilities
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:18 pm to
wasnt there a claim that they used a hypersonic weapon in Ukraine within the last few months?
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:19 pm to
Absurd and useless in modern combat
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Personally I think some of these “UAP”s sightings are operated by us.


…as opposed to what?
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2977 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:47 pm to
You have to be able to lock them up first. Good luck with that.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4640 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:50 pm to
ICBM's are hypersonic, germans had them in world war 2, this is nothing new.


FYI -> LINK

Believe nothing those morons say.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Believe nothing those morons say.



I don't know if you are purposely ignoring the below fact or you are slow. This was an Assessment done by our own Defense Intelligence Agency. So you are calling our own U.S. DIA, Morons?




"This is not coming from Russia. This is based of a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency Report

"The nuclear-tipped R-37M air-to-air missile, as reported by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency in its 2025 Worldwide Threat Assessment, represents a significant advancement in Russia’s aerospace capabilities due to its unique combination of long-range, hypersonic speed, and nuclear warhead."
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
37323 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:03 pm to
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How Dangerous is Russia’s New Nuclear-Tipped Air-to-Air Missile?



tldr but I'm willing to bet China John says its very dangerous.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:10 pm to
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tldr


Your knowledge base is severely inadequate

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but I'm willing to bet 


Incorrect. I provided the article to promote a discussion about the the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency Report. I have no personal feelings one way or the other because I have no bias for or against Russia. I just take the information and use it to expand my knowledge. On the other hand, you seem to have a Bias against Russia. Would you like to show me on the Doll where Putin touched you?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109289 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:16 pm to
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In all seriousness, we have some stuff in our arsenal that is 50 years beyond this.


Yet we still couldn't, or wouldn't, defeat the Taliban.
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:16 pm to
That link shows that 15 engineer/scientists were arrested for "taking this tech to others outside of Russia"

There is something that is distinctive about these Russian weapons - development way past any ICBM or german ww2 rocket

I would also be interested in the one that Putin favored.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134939 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 1:18 pm to
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I have no bias for or against Russia.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7969 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:28 pm to
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"The nuclear-tipped R-37M air-to-air missile, as reported by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency in its 2025 Worldwide Threat Assessment, represents a significant advancement in Russia’s aerospace capabilities due to its unique combination of long-range, hypersonic speed, and nuclear warhead."

https://armedservices.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025_dia_statement_for_the_record.pdf

Where does it say that?

It's a real report.

it says
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Russia is expanding its nuclear forces by adding new capabilities, including nuclear air-to-air missiles and novel nuclear systems. Russia probably maintains a nuclear stockpile of about 1,550 deployed strategic warheads and up to 2,000 non-strategic warheads. Russia is expanding its nuclear posture to Belarus by establishing missile and nuclear-capable aircraft capabilities, renovating a nuclear weapons storage site, and training Belarusian crews to handle tactical nuclear weapons. Throughout the Russia-Ukraine conflict, Russia has used nuclear-related rhetoric and military exercises to signal its resolve and deter Russia-perceived Western
involvement in the conflict. However, Russia is very unlikely to use nuclear weapons in the conflict unless Russian leadership judged it faced an existential threat to the regime.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7655 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 2:54 pm to
WTF do you think?

If you think we are alone in this universe I can’t help you sir.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:05 pm to
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WTF do you think?

If you think we are alone in this universe I can’t help you sir.





We are alone. I'm not saying life doesn't exist elsewhere, but it isn't here.


Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7655 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:17 pm to
Close minded Fool
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