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re: How can you possibly deny that healthcare is a human right?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:53 pm to CM Tiger83
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:53 pm to CM Tiger83
quote:
You can’t have a right to someone else’s labor.
legal representation when accused of a crime
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:54 pm to tiggerthetooth
There is NO human right that requires you to steal labor or treasure from another to provide?
Right to life? Liberty? pursuit of happiness? Freedom of speech? Freedom to associate? Hell, even Civil Rights?
None of those requires anyone else to DO anything.
But, healthcare? That requires a doctor to provide a service or a drug maker to create and provide a medicine. Or, it requires the Gov to use guns to take money from others to pay for it.
It is frickery to call this a human right
Right to life? Liberty? pursuit of happiness? Freedom of speech? Freedom to associate? Hell, even Civil Rights?
None of those requires anyone else to DO anything.
But, healthcare? That requires a doctor to provide a service or a drug maker to create and provide a medicine. Or, it requires the Gov to use guns to take money from others to pay for it.
It is frickery to call this a human right
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:55 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:
right
This doesn't mean what you think it means in this context
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:55 pm to tiggerthetooth
I prefer having quality healthcare.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:58 pm to tiggerthetooth
Because you don't have a right to someone else's labor.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:58 pm to tiggerthetooth
Where is it listed in the bill or rights or constitution?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:00 pm to tiggerthetooth
How can you justify killing a fully viable baby in the third trimester? That is evil.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:00 pm to tiggerthetooth
Healthcare may be a right. But it sure in the hell is not a right to make me pay for your healthcare.
BTW, have you seen how well the VA works, or the post office, or any other government run department.
Healthcare is a right is code for I want more free shite.
BTW, have you seen how well the VA works, or the post office, or any other government run department.
Healthcare is a right is code for I want more free shite.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:01 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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None of those requires anyone else to DO anything.
How about a defense attorney?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:03 pm to Choctaw
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because it's a commodity
Like PORK BELLY...which you might find in Bacon, Tomato and lettuce sandwich...
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:04 pm to tiggerthetooth
Oh. Look. A list of nations checked off that are completely reliant upon the US for national defense as well as worldwide airlift capabilities and naval projection during emergencies such as natural disasters.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:04 pm to LSU5508
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I’m all for free healthcare as long as it excludes any illness related to drugs, drinking, smoking and obesity.
Me too. What is your address so I can send YOU the bill for MY free healthcare? You see, nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:05 pm to CAD703X
quote:I'll never forget the little Norwegian tourguide hobbling around this summer on a nonhealing foot fracture . . . because the treatment in Norway for NHFF's is a boot, tincture-of-time, more tincture-of-time, a little more tincture-of-time, additional tincture-of-time, followed by risk of life-long disability ....... instead of surgery.
How can you possibly deny that healthcare is a human right?
they just need a little more money.
BUT IT'S 'FREE' !
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:07 pm to upgrayedd
Under the constitution only life liberty and pursuit of happiness or rights. Everything else is a privilege.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:08 pm to tiggerthetooth
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How can you possibly deny that healthcare is a human right?
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I'm with Bernie.
Who has been denied healthcare in the US?
Are you claiming that a person who is ill will be turned away at a hospital?
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:09 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
quote:It's a bit like Weinstien saying human sexuality is a right, then forcing an actress to participate in his "right".
None of those requires anyone else to DO anything.
But, healthcare? That requires a doctor to provide a service or a drug maker to create and provide a medicine. Or, it requires the Gov to use guns to take money from others to pay for it.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:14 pm to NC_Tigah
I agree with the dominant conclusion of this thread, but the logic being used by most is directly contradicted by the 6th amendment.
It clearly guarantees a "right" to the labor of an attorney.
So yall have a major problem with the Bill of Rights.
curious how you reconcile that
It clearly guarantees a "right" to the labor of an attorney.
So yall have a major problem with the Bill of Rights.
curious how you reconcile that
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:16 pm to TigerRad
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legal representation when accused of a crime
Thats just a means of not destroying the system with backlogs. The legal system is a system directed by mumbo jumbo legaleze. Lawyers would make a mint on some Joe Schmo being convicted because he doesn't speak mumbo jumbo legaleze. It save stealing even more of someone elses labor working through the system.
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:22 pm to TigerRad
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but the logic being used by most is directly contradicted by the 6th amendment.
It clearly guarantees a "right" to the labor of an attorney.
No, it guarantees a right to have an attorney present. Not that the state would provide one. The state providing an attorney is an after the fact addition not found in the Constitution, and only applied after Gideon v. Wainright in 1963.
This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:23 pm to tiggerthetooth
How can you possibly deny that when I am born I am not in debt to you?
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