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re: How can we most effectively revolt without violence?
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:31 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:31 pm to lake chuck fan
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Once we get there, it will matter.
If we get “there”, nothing about your current concerns or way of life will matter.
Everyone loses a civil war.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:37 pm to ronricks
quote:Throw in the inflation too.
So, if a 'stolen election' and all the Illegal Immigration at the southern border isn't enough then what will be?
Just my guess, the average person is unaware of their own surroundings and need to be told. As long as the gravy keeps coming they'll continue watching entertainment and shoving cookies in their face..
Bread and circuses.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:37 pm to geauxkoo
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How do we hold these people responsible without having to aim a weapon?
Stop voting for the status quo.
If your senator or rep voted for Ukraine money - don't vote for that person.
If he / she voted for the omnibus - don't vote for that person.
If he / she supported McCarthy - don't vote for that person.
There are easy litmus tests to apply.
We have five people in the House that refused to go along with Ukraine, Omnibus, or McCarthy: Gaetz, Biggs, Crane, Rosendale, Goode. That's it in the House.
On the ballot this year for the Senate we are left with Hawley and that's it. Marsha Blackburn was doing well but she wouldn't support a resolution affirming that our Constitution is superior to the NATO treaty.
There's a video at the Our Country Our Choice channel Youtube and it's fairly long but the guy mentions that as citizens we have four "boxes" that we can use to change the things:
Soap box
Ballot box
Jury box
Cartridge box
Soap box clearly doesn't work. The Insurgent Class does what it wants no matter what we say.
That leaves us with the Ballot box, which is my emphasis here - we can change things at the ballot box if people would just grab a pair of balls and stop voting for the same losers. Jimmy Dore and others are trying to get people on the left to stop doing it, and there are many people on the right doing the same.
Stop voting for the same losers.
In that video the guy goes over the Jury Box, talking about grand juries and such that the people can initiate. It's long and it's a difficult process but it's there. I don't endorse it right now because the Ballot Box is much more efficient and it would be incredibly difficult to educate people and get them onboard with the Jury Box.
In the end, we are headed to the Cartridge Box and that is something we really need to avoid, and that is why, again, you must use the Ballot Box and stop voting for the same group of losers, tyrants, and traitors that sell us out time after time.
Our government is getting tyrannical and that means the cartridge box is coming out - they'll use it on us without a doubt. If you want to halt that process, then use the ballot box.
Refusing to pay taxes won't work - they'll just take their time picking off each non payer, one by one, and in the meantime they'll print the money like they already do and nothing will change.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:38 pm to ronricks
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So, if a 'stolen election' and all the Illegal Immigration at the southern border isn't enough then what will be? If those two things aren't enough its hard to imagine what would be.
If the GOPe, GOP, RNC, and yes the Trump campaign wasn’t run by retards on the PR side this wouldn’t be an issue.
The right SUCKS at messaging. Republicans have been completely inept at reaching anyone other than committed Republicans for several decades now.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:39 pm to Indefatigable
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Everyone loses a civil war.
facts
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:39 pm to Indefatigable
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If we get “there”, nothing about your current concerns or way of life will matter.
Most of us, including myself have never been in a real survival situation. Most of what we care about today will be gone overnight.
I question myself here too. Not as young as I was. When its dog eat dog, every wiggling bush could kill you and all your free time spent working.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Just my guess, the average person is unaware of their own surroundings and need to be told. As long as the gravy keeps coming they'll continue watching entertainment and shoving cookies in their face..
I think you are onto something. As long as Americans have 200 Directv channels, air conditioning and a refrigerator full of food they won't do anything. We have become lazy obese and sickly populace in America. We have people on 3 or 4 or even 5 prescription medications that if taken away would be dead in weeks. There will be no 'Civil War' or armed uprising because the majority of Americans are either too lazy or too fat/obese or both.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:42 pm to Indefatigable
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The right SUCKS at messaging.
it's pretty hard to message effectively when the entire Propaganda Branch is working against you, and you are trying to explain to a bunch of barely literate voters the nuances of why the other side giving them free stuff is actually worse for everyone in the long run.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:43 pm to ronricks
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because the majority of Americans are either too lazy or too fat/obese or both.
Over the years I have gotten softer too. We are at our best when hungry.
The worst thing Ive ever done is thinking I have arrived. That screwed me up.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:46 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Hard times create strong men
Strong men bring good times
Good times create soft men
Soft men bring hard times.
Strong men bring good times
Good times create soft men
Soft men bring hard times.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:48 pm to ronricks
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There will be no 'Civil War' or armed uprising because the majority of Americans are either too lazy or too fat/obese or both.
there will be violence eventually. it's just matter of when, and how far things go before this happens. eventually the lazy and fat will die off. but ultimately and eventually, people have enough and the people will outnumber the government every single time. the variable is just time.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:53 pm to bamaatlsu
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And a lot of other people are doing it. Unfortunately, many of them still vote democrat even after moving into conservative areas. I see it all the time in Texas.
That's true with some. But keep in mind that leftists tend to be insular. When they are exposed to living in a more free environment they gradually change. If they don't, their kids certainly adapt to the new ideas.
I've known a LOT of Arabs who were born in the US of immigrant parents. None of them are practicing Muslims. They just refer to it as 'My grandparent's thing.'
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:55 pm to Indefatigable
quote:We need to elect FIGHTERS. Electing the same democrat-lites will not change anything.
Nominate electable candidates, win elections, and govern without sacrificing conservative progress for nonsense culture war issues that result in a wave of liberal opposition in the voting base.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:56 pm to geauxkoo
A nationwide work stoppage by the right could cripple the country quickly.
Trucking, energy, transportation, law enforcement, agriculture, etc.
Trucking, energy, transportation, law enforcement, agriculture, etc.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 2:59 pm to bhtigerfan
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A nationwide work stoppage by the right could cripple the country quickly.
We just partially did that about four years ago.
Who did that benefit? Certainly not the average American. Do you feel like you have more liberty now than you did before the COVID bullshite? Or did scarcity and upheaval result in MORE government in your life?
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:01 pm to Sam Quint
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it's pretty hard to message effectively when the entire Propaganda Branch is working against you, and you are trying to explain to a bunch of barely literate voters the nuances of why the other side giving them free stuff is actually worse for everyone in the long run.
I didn't say the deck wasn't stacked for the left. It is.
But the GOP has been, and remains, perpetually AWFUL at messaging, timing, campaigning, etc.
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:02 pm to CharlesUFarley
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Convention of States.
Absolutely no thanks.
I can't think of a worse idea, honestly. No Convention would ever stay within the bounds of its enabling mandate or legislation. No such convention in history ever has, including the one that gave us our current Constitution. It would ultimately result in a re-writing of the entire constitutional framework. I for one do not trust this generation(s) of politicians with that power. They are not worthy or capable of it.
This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/12/24 at 3:03 pm to geauxkoo
Everyone agree to stay home for an entire month .Switch off the electricity. Do not travel anywhere, don't buy anything, leave the lights off.
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