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re: How America’s Quality of Life Imploded

Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:25 pm to
To be fair...that graph also depicts things that are impacted directly by technology and automation vs things that aren't so easily.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:25 pm to
Check out the titles of this guy's (umair haque) articles

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Why American Collapse is Only Just Beginning (Not Ending) Six Megatrends That Will Shape the Future


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How America’s Quality of Life Imploded Or, How to Get Prosperity Backwards


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Why Americans Should Admit They’re Traumatized by Collapse Or, The Anxiety of Living in a Collapsing World


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Why Utopian Societies Like America Fall Or, If Extreme Capitalism is What Connects America’s Problems, Why Can’t Americans Figure it Out?



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Why America is the World’s Most Uniquely Cruel Society Or, How Punching Down Became a Way of Life


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Is There About to be A Great American Awakening? How Young People Might Just Reinvent a Broken Society


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Is There Any Price Americans Won’t Ask Their Kids to Pay? Or, the Dismal Future of the Average American Young Person



Fking move dude.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19540 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:26 pm to
If you want to see the poor have all those things, pick out a couple of poor families and start giving them a percentage of your income. Don’t put it on everybody else to do what you want to do.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:26 pm to
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To be fair...that graph also depicts things that are impacted directly by technology and automation vs things that aren't so easily.



That, and other than food/bev, are subject to far more regulation and intervention than the others.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:26 pm to
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Who would have thought it!
Every single Economist with any shred of honesty.
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1122 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:27 pm to
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Fking move dude.


Everyone is just trying to make America great (in some cases 'again'), through different approaches and the free exchange of ideas promotes this.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:28 pm to
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Everyone is just trying to make America great (in some cases 'again'), through different approaches and the free exchange of ideas promotes this.



What happens when there are very, very distinct ideas on how to achieve this, yet only one may prevail?
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:29 pm to
Perhaps Tom, the poor elderly Walmart worker, likes to work. You know, there is no sin in working late in life. Many of do it because we want to, not because we have to.
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:29 pm to
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What happens when there are very, very distinct ideas on how to achieve this, yet only one may prevail?


Reality: Nothing prevails except gridlock and maintaining existing Dem/Rep power structures.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55496 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Reality: Nothing prevails except gridlock and maintaining existing Dem/Rep power structures.



Until, of course, the respective adherents to these 'parties' become dissatisfied with the status quo, radicalize, and seek the destruction of the other. This is, I think, what happens with divided informal power and party politics, unless there is someone truly in charge.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101477 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:30 pm to
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Reality: Nothing prevails except gridlock and maintaining existing Dem/Rep power structures.


What would "prevailing" entail? Do you feel like there's something personally holding you back?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:35 pm to
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What happens when there are very, very distinct ideas on how to achieve this, yet only one may prevail?

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:36 pm to
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Its no problem


But it is

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I understand that many people have not trained themselves to empathize and understand other perspectives


Empathy doesn’t trump logic. I have appropriate amounts of empathy for those that deserve it. It seems you don’t
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:38 pm to
pffffft.....


I'm not an old man. But, even I remember when you had to find your porn in magazines under your dad's mattress or face the indignity of buying a Hustler from the old biddy at the corner store.

Today, there are tube sites with HD streaming.


Tell me how quality of life has decreased?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21920 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Healthy food, healthcare, stable housing, "afford kids", that sort of basic stuff.


Ridiculous.

30 years ago my wife and I married.
I made $7.25 and my wife made $4.35 and hour.

We now gross just under $220K a year
We have 7 Kids. 3 have finished college, one is starting college and one joined the Army.
The last 2 are in Jr High and High School.

We have provided every thing our kids need by the sweat of our brow and didn't need or depend on the Government for anything.

Anyone can do the same if they are willing to work for it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:43 pm to
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Healthy food, healthcare, stable housing, "afford kids", that sort of basic stuff.



Odd. I have all that.

What seems to be the issue?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57711 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:44 pm to
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This guy is onto something! Ensuring basic quality of life standards for all people leads to longer lives and happier people - end goals we can all share.


In theory. If you have a homogenous country that shares similar values and desires.

Doesn’t work if you have nearly 50% of the population wanting to do nothing and be paid for it.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:54 pm to
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The US and the world are mirror images —life’s basics became cripplingly expensive luxuries in America, but free everywhere else.


And that’s where I stopped reading.

Go to Guatemala and apply for Medicare. Hook up to free WiFi. Buy a car with bad credit.

Get back to me.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8008 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:55 pm to
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Healthy food, healthcare, stable housing, "afford kids", that sort of basic stuff.
I need to find it, but there isn’t a graph with a bunch of things in comparison to inflation over the last few decades. Every thing that had direct government support like tax breaks, direct subsidies, government backed loans, etc. grew faster than inflation while everything that didn’t, grew slower than inflation.


The big differentiator is tradeable vs. non-tradeable goods.

All those goods that the author mentions as "basic rights" are non-tradeable normal goods.

The Euros contain costs in part because they impose some pretty strict state-enforced cost controls (i.e., QALY for the NHS, German education tracting at 13 years old, etc.) and, in part, because most of the continent is poorer than the U.S. is when adjusting for purchasing power. They don't have the marginal dollars we do to spend on things like healthcare and education.

ETA: And we do have a form of social contract, just not to the extent that guy wants. We wouldn't have free public education through high school, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security without one.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:57 pm
Posted by Big_Slim
Mogadishu
Member since Apr 2016
3977 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:56 pm to
What in the sam hell is this commie crap?
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