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re: How, after 20 years, are there so many Talban left?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:38 am to greygoose
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:38 am to greygoose
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We trained the new recruits.
And then deliberately left a bunch of military equipment there so they could take it and use it. Less obvious than pallets full of cash.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:43 am to squid_hunt
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I don’t quite understand how we didn’t just physically wipe them out over this time period.
After Gus, I'll bite the bullet ....
The Taliban recruits better than Auburn does?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:44 am to ItNeverRains
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Occupation creates insurgency. At least in every history book I’ve ever read
This.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:49 am to bluedragon
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The Taliban recruits better than Auburn does?
I think the question we have to ask is: Do you trust the news media to report the truth in Chicago or Wisconsin or Georgia?
Then why do you trust them to be telling the truth about what's going on in Afghanistan half a world away where you can get arrested just for attempting to go there?
They are lying about what is going on. The only thing that is getting reported is what the administration wants reported. What the truth is, I don't know. But I do know that it's likely 1. not as bad as I'm being told it is. 2. nearly the exact opposite of what I'm being told.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:50 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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I don’t quite understand how we didn’t just physically wipe them out over this time period.
They never asked for democracy, they never wanted it. A foreign nation was inside their borders for 20 years. What do you think? Seems obvious. Regardless of if our intentions were good or not, it was not wanted.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:51 am to ForeverEllisHugh
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I don’t quite understand how we didn’t just physically wipe them out over this time period.
we didn't kill their woman and children
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:52 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Pakistan
This is just infuriating. We should have first given them the opportunity to take out the terrorists within their borders, with the warning that failure to do so would result in forfeiture of sovereignty.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:55 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Pakistan is why
I have heard several times the problem is now Pakistan. I have a problem with that. First of all, Pakistan has been our ally for decades in fighting Afghanistan. Second of all, we have been supplying the Pakistani military with weapons to fight a proxy war in Afghanistan against the Iranians for just as long. Finally, Pakistan had to close its embassy in Afghanistan with us.
Something's rotten in Denmark. Wag that dog.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:56 am to ForeverEllisHugh
Maybe the Democratic Party actually supports the Taliban? If you really think about it, they align on so many principles regarding limitations of freedom. They clearly side with the Communist party of China. Maybe this was their plan?
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:57 am to JCdawg
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Maybe the Democratic Party actually supports the Taliban?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:58 am to Fat Bastard
The ME being a shithole has nothing to do with my comment. We absolutely exasperated the problem. The taliban is stronger now than when 9/11 happened
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:01 pm to greygoose
Not much else to do in the desert except pray and breed, when they are not going after young boys!
Old Arabic saying that I learned while living in Libya back in the day “ there is no greater joy, than a fat butted boy”.
Old Arabic saying that I learned while living in Libya back in the day “ there is no greater joy, than a fat butted boy”.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:03 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
They have amassed 200-300K man army. Not really hard to do with the population. Plus many were just waiting it out.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:04 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
And why were they all so healthy and clean looking when they took over the Afghan presidential office? I was like WTF? These goobers have been running around hiding in huts and gaves? Really?
It made me think of this.
It made me think of this.
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:06 pm to geauxbrown
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Because they don't give a damned about Starbucks, sports, entertainment, fashion, facebook, twitter..........
They have one goal and singular vision. Right or wrong.
I think they like FB and Tweeter to control and use propaganda on the population, but don't give a shite about any celebrity or Progs opinions there.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:08 pm to ChineseBandit58
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Is Pakistan still considered an ally or an enemy or an independent in our foreign policy planning?
Pakistan is an “ally” in the way that Saudi Arabia is an “ally”.
It’s similar to how a leech is an “ally” of its host.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:08 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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This is just infuriating. We should have first given them the opportunity to take out the terrorists within their borders, with the warning that failure to do so would result in forfeiture of sovereignty.
What would have that done? It isn't like we didn't run operations there. But Pakistan represents its own challenges, as the politics there are complex. Firstly, there is massive concern about the possibility of the dwindling power of the Punjabi majority, which explains their interest in trying to control Pashtun nationalism. Secondly, there are several wings within the Pakistani security apparatus, some of whom fight the tribes in the Northwest, and some of them who try to use them for other ends, like operations in India. The Khyber Insurgency has killed around 100,000 people since it started, both military and civilian, with the end result being that the Punjabi majority areas enjoy relatively high development, while the periphery suffers from almost no monies dedicated to it other than from military intervention.
There's not an easy solution to the Pakistan situation, as it is linked to the geopolitics of the entire area. What is true is that the mostly Punjabi elite are interested in both their self-preservation, mainly at the expense of other groups, and that some wings of the Pakistan security apparatus have conflicting interests with other wings, and with the United States. The direct involvement of ISI in Afghanistan includes the Pakistanis raising a guerrilla force to wage an insurgency against Afghanistan and Dauod Khan, because they regarded Khan as anti-Pakistan. It's not a simple or straightforward situation.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:10 pm to squid_hunt
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I have heard several times the problem is now Pakistan. I have a problem with that. First of all, Pakistan has been our ally for decades in fighting Afghanistan. Second of all, we have been supplying the Pakistani military with weapons to fight a proxy war in Afghanistan against the Iranians for just as long. Finally, Pakistan had to close its embassy in Afghanistan with us.
If only it were that unambiguous.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:10 pm to Indefatigable
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Pakistan is an “ally” in the way that Saudi Arabia is an “ally”. It’s similar to how a leech is an “ally” of its host.
In this case, we were the parasite. Invading, destroying their culture and infrastructure, and using their people to fight a war for our elites that they didn't have the backbone to fight themselves.
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If only it were that unambiguous.
No, it's not clear, but now blaming Pakistan is silly. Either they've been fighting us the entire time and our intelligence is worse than useless or we are blaming them because we're hoping people are too stupid and ignorant to recognize the lie.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 12:12 pm
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