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re: How, after 20 years, are there so many Talban left?
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:11 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:11 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
The new Taliban were trained by us. Why do you think it fell so fast? We handed back over to thousands of hidden Taliban pretending to be the good guys.
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:15 pm to Indefatigable
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Pakistan is an “ally” in the way that Saudi Arabia is an “ally”.
It’s similar to how a leech is an “ally” of its host.
It's more of an ally of convenience, as I doubt Pakistan has the money to influence Washington to the level of the KSA. I don't think they've hidden all that much about what they were doing. In fact, I've read some suggestion that Zia-ul-Haq had a blank check with regard to how he helped the US achieve its interest in Afghanistan in the 80's.
The problem with the Saudis is they don't want to sacrifice their own men, and instead would rather rely on the US or other proxies. With regard to their own objectives, the same can't be said of the Pakistanis.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:16 pm to squid_hunt
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Either they've been fighting us the entire time and our intelligence is worse than useless or we are blaming them because we're hoping people are too stupid and ignorant to recognize the lie.
It's definitely not an either/or situation.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:17 pm to crazy4lsu
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It's definitely not an either/or situation.
Fair enough, but at least one has to be true.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:20 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Those people switch sides overnight. They favor whichever side they perceive is winning.
The Taliban used WhatsApp to send announcements to local communities that they were now in control of the local governments.
So, they flipped.
The Taliban used WhatsApp to send announcements to local communities that they were now in control of the local governments.
So, they flipped.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:25 pm to Indefatigable
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Pakistan is an “ally” in the way that Saudi Arabia is an “ally”.
I've work with a lot of Pakistani's in the US and abroad, they think very highly of the US and they feel close to us because they suffered terrorist attacks due to allying with the US during all of this.
Obviously the govt doesn't reflect the people. We know that much with our govt alone.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:27 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Its pretty simple all the orphans created from the 1990s saga are now grown men today and fighing the same battles their fathers fought because they were brainwashed by those that took them in.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:33 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
History repeats itself.
Vietnam - targets in N Vietnam, Cambodia restricted. You can only hit them when they come south / east on Ho Chi Ming trail.
Afghanistan - targets in Pakistan restricted. You can only hit them when they come back across the border into Afghanistan again.
Taliban leaders / resources hidden / sheltered in Pakistan where they were safe and just came back when we left. This is readily verifiable if you do any amount of reading about the military operations in Afghanistan.
Vietnam - targets in N Vietnam, Cambodia restricted. You can only hit them when they come south / east on Ho Chi Ming trail.
Afghanistan - targets in Pakistan restricted. You can only hit them when they come back across the border into Afghanistan again.
Taliban leaders / resources hidden / sheltered in Pakistan where they were safe and just came back when we left. This is readily verifiable if you do any amount of reading about the military operations in Afghanistan.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:48 pm to squid_hunt
quote:Imagine you are a "liberated" Afghani and our military spent untold hours training you on our advanced equipment. We bug out, and leave you and the advanced equipment behind. Along comes the insurgents. Join them and use your new skills, or die after watching your whole family tortured and massacred.
And then deliberately left a bunch of military equipment there so they could take it and use it. Less obvious than pallets full of cash.
That is where we are right now.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 2:25 pm to greygoose
LINK - Brietbart
Islamist Pakistan PM: Taliban Has ‘Broken the Shackles of Slavery’
Islamist Pakistan PM: Taliban Has ‘Broken the Shackles of Slavery’
quote:
The Taliban terror group’s reconquering of Kabul on Sunday broke the “shackles” of a “cultural enslavement” Afghanistan endured since the U.S. invaded the country in 2001, Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, a hardline Islamist, argued on Monday.
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