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re: Houthis hit cargo ship killing two. Ship might sink

Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6256 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:48 pm to
Thanks biden.

USA support with no fricking plan.

We're such idiots.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63545 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:49 pm to
Don’t be talking trash about Natasha.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:58 pm to
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A Barbados flagged Libian owned US ship

Fixed
Aljazeera and other news outlets said it was us owned ship
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16744 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 6:59 pm to
Why don’t we just sail our ships over there and sink them ourselves?

Do the Houthis a favor and all since they are poor in a developing nation.
This post was edited on 3/6/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8094 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:01 pm to
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A Barbados flagged Libian owned US ship?


The flag a ship flies and where the ship is registered has nothing to do with who actually owns a ship. A ship can be registered anywhere, so most large ships fly a flag of convenience from a country that is friendly to shipping. Panama and Liberia are the two most common. Even Mongolia and land locked Bolivia are used. As you can imagine, the United States is not a preferred country. This particular ship is owned by a Greek company.

Flag of Convenience
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:04 pm to
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So I’ve learned the Saudis are apparently worthless and impotent as frick as it concerns the Houthis.
I guess you missed the part where they’ve been in conflict since 2015. There’s a reason they’re trying to avoid more conflict
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5113 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Barbados-flagged, Liberian-owned


Not USA, don't care
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2151 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:23 pm to
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a Barbados-flagged, Liberian-owned bulk carrier


Not an American ship, not an American problem.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14015 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:25 pm to
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Not USA, don't care

Same. And these half measures are bullshite. My personal opinion is that we should just leave and let countries dependent upon that waterway for trade handle it. If we're not going to do that, then we should kick the ever living shite out of Iran's Navy in retaliation.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8269 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:30 pm to
Can’t wait til Biden sends the Bud Lite Tranny to negotiate with them
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5762 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 7:40 pm to
I guess Pedo Joe will tell the Houthi’s that he has to blow up some more warehouses as retaliation. They need to get their equipment and people out of those warehouses before he does
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 9:33 pm to
Yea, well aware.

I've long had an issue with the flag of convenience thing. Fly a US flag, pay US taxes, get the full services of the USN. I just wish our tax and regulatory arrangements weren't so unfriendly to that.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
8094 posts
Posted on 3/6/24 at 10:20 pm to
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Yea, well aware.


Then why did you post this, which I was replying to? Not trying to be too antagonistic, but it seemed you thought the flag indicated ownership.

quote:

A Barbados flagged Libian owned US ship?


Maybe I am reading that wrong, but it seems you think the flag indicates ownership.

quote:

I've long had an issue with the flag of convenience thing. Fly a US flag, pay US taxes, get the full services of the USN. I just wish our tax and regulatory arrangements weren't so unfriendly to that.


For an “average” container ship, it saves the owner of the ship about $3 million a year per ship to have it registered in Liberia, Mongolia, Marshall Islands, etc. versus the United States. A super tanker will be so much more.

And when bad shite goes down it is 5,000 miles from the U.S. and the U.S. Navy ain’t doing shite unless they have the opportunity to make “Capt. Phillips Part 2”. There is no way a sane person running a shipping company would give a few million extra dollars a year per ship to a country, the United States, that is actively trying to put them out of business.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19259 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:37 am to
The Houthi thoroughly defeated them.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25020 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:45 am to
"Never change the horse you're riding on mid-stream!"

That's the stock cry we hear during a war and a Presidential election, isn't it?

Except, we're not in a war.


Are we?

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