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re: Hospital System Denies Woman’s Life-Saving Kidney because she is unvaccinated

Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
52970 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:45 pm to
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Imagine still thinking the vaccine is only for your own health


What's it for then
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71358 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:45 pm to
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She should sue.

And she’d win
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125717 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:45 pm to
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Yeah it's not like we need each other at all.


This is dumb collectivist thinking. I don’t make my personal health decisions based on actuarial tables. You shouldn’t either. If you are, you’re one dumb motherfricker.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:45 pm to
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I did. He told me I should not get it because I have natural immunity. He said he and his colleagues are noticing that people who had China virus and then got the vaccine have had significantly worse reactions to it.


As posted earlier, people who had the mumps were not allowed to get the mumps vax for that very reason. Same with smallpox. Anyone who preaches vaccines to the naturally immune and makes fun of Scientology or any other religion needs a mirror to stare in.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 5:46 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47864 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:46 pm to
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Imagine still thinking the vaccine is only for your own health


It has never been about personal health. If you're relying on someone else to get a vaccine to avoid getting a virus with a 99.97% survival rate, then you are a dumb fricking idiot. Don't be a fatass, get some exercise and sunlight, and you'll be fine.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 5:48 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63004 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:46 pm to
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Natural immunity wanes after about 6 months.


This is a lie. You're thinking about the vaccine.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:47 pm to
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What's it for then


Money and control. The vaccine does nothing for 100 million people with natural immunity in this country
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60773 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:51 pm to
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Nih.gov
That’s right, a fricking government owned and linked website
Wait a minute. You trust them now?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:52 pm to
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You morons realize than when you get an organ transplant you have to take immunosuppressant drugs right?


So is it her body her choice or not?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125717 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:52 pm to
Wait a minute. You don’t?

We can do this all day.
Posted by SaintlyTiger
Deridder La
Member since Nov 2012
2302 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:53 pm to
To be fair it’s not like they have a kidney and are saying hey you can’t have this Bc ur not vaccinated
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21387 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:53 pm to
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They kinda do, and they also know that even if you hold onto it longer you will probably be sans antibodies at 2 years...much like other coronaviruses. Do you support vaccination then, when antibodies wane?

Do you support vaccination in those that have not had COVID?


Wrong again.

Yes, the antibodies “wane”. No, your immune response does not go back to base line prior to the disease. Your T cells won’t forget this virus.

And no, I choose to let my natural immune response get acclimated to this new corona virus which is here to stay, and I don’t plan to get booster shots unless I have comorbidities to consider.

I think it’s hubris to think that we can eradicate this virus, or even slow it down except minimally for short periods (to slow the curve).

I fear that we have set a precedent on a virus that cannot be sustained when (not if) another virus comes along. The total human misery caused by our reaction to the virus in attempting to halt it is greater than the toll the virus itself took.
Posted by Harlan County USA
Member since Sep 2021
734 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:53 pm to
I would absolutely blow somebody's brains out over that letter.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125717 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:54 pm to
Derp.

LINK

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Her donor Jaimee Fougner, who received the same letter from UCHealth, told the broadcaster she has not received the vaccine for religious reasons.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125717 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:55 pm to
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I fear that we have set a precedent on a virus that cannot be sustained when (not if) another virus comes along. The total human misery caused by our reaction to the virus in attempting to halt it is greater than the toll the virus itself took.


That was really just to win an election. And now they can’t find a way out of their own labyrinth.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40023 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:56 pm to
A friend of mine near Atlanta has a friend that this has also happened to .. wtf??

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23071 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:58 pm to
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Natural immunity wanes after about 6 months.


So does the vaccine. Well reports say the vaccine does. People speculate that NI does
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40023 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 5:59 pm to
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There is a laundry list of vaccines you are required to get before getting an organ


Not being ugly at all ... but what vaccines are they required to get? Truly don't know.

But as another honest side question, why should this be required? It won't stop anyone from GETTING covid and YES I understand that it can keep people from having to go into the hospital if they do contract covid.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125717 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 6:07 pm to
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It won't stop anyone from GETTING covid and YES I understand that it can keep people from having to go into the hospital if they do contract covid.


You don’t have to keep repeating this. The vaccine doesn’t lessen symptoms that much. Breakthrough infections result in around a 3% hospitalization rate. That’s a 25% or 30% difference in relative reduction. A 1% to 1.5% difference in absolute reduction.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14755 posts
Posted on 10/6/21 at 6:09 pm to
Outrage city in this thread.
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