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Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:53 pm to BoarEd
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o used to say AI was actually demons. So yeah, I guess it's certainly a "point of view."
Absolutely not. You have me mixed up with someone else. You and I have actually had some decent interactions when discussing the UAP topic. When I say alien intelligence I dont mean from outer space. I mean its something we have never encountered before and dont understand really how it operates...which is true. We dont really understand how these neural networks operate. This makes them particularly unpredictable
Here is . Jakub Pachocki,Chief Scientist at OpenAI (not crazy person) discussing the point of view LINK An Alien Mind
Avi Loeb (you may be familiar with him in your UAP research) "Viewing AI as Alien Intelligence" LINK
Yuval Noah Harari Prof. Yuval Noah Harari is a historian, philosopher and best-selling author of 'Sapiens' "What happens when intelligence outgrows its creators" LINK
"Throughout history, for tens of thousands of years, the only entities that could invent stories, whether stories about gods, or stories about money were human beings. So we lived cocooned inside a cultural world constructed by the human imagination. If you read a holy book, or if you read an economic theory, or if you listen to a song or you listen to a piece of music, this came out of the mind of another human being. So we lived in a human world.
Now, for the first time in history, there is another entity. There is another agent out there that can create stories, economic theories, new kinds of currencies, music, poems, images, videos, and this new entity is AI. What happens to human society? What happens to human life if we increasingly live our lives cocooned inside the cultural artifacts coming from non-human intelligence, from an alien intelligence.
"The acronym AI traditionally stood for artificial intelligence, but I think it’s more accurate to think about it as an acronym for alien intelligence because artificial, it gives the impression that this is an artifact that we create and control, and AI with every passing year, AI is becoming less and less artificial and more and more alien in the sense that we can’t predict what kind of new stories and ideas and strategies it’ll come up with. It thinks it behaves in a fundamentally alien way"
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:09 pm to ThuperThumpin
You're quoting astrophysicists, historian/philosophers, and one AI scientist who argues that we need to INCREASE the pace with which we develop these systems in your argument. Which brings me to the second point you brought up earlier. About how this is all going to end in catastrophe, according to you. You cited 3 "leaders of the field" who, you guessed it, are dumping trillions of dollars into AI.
Again, the panic narrative is a frickin hoax. If it weren't, these same people wouldn't be dumping everything they've got into its development. This is obvious to rational people.
Furthermore, none of it matters anyways because we aren't slowing down. Period.
Again, the panic narrative is a frickin hoax. If it weren't, these same people wouldn't be dumping everything they've got into its development. This is obvious to rational people.
Furthermore, none of it matters anyways because we aren't slowing down. Period.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:22 pm to BoarEd
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Which brings me to the second point you brought up earlier. About how this is all going to end in catastrophe, according to you.
Where did I say this?.....
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You cited 3 "leaders of the field" who, you guessed it, are dumping trillions of dollars into AI.
Again, the panic narrative is a frickin hoax. If it weren't, these same people wouldn't be dumping everything they've got into its development. This is obvious to rational people.
I made the point that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth ....probalby to CYA in case something goes wrong ...meanwhile Yes......moving full steam ahead. My main criticism of Trump was he calling the alarmist hoaxsters when concerns over AI have existed for decades and we have done nothing in the way of legislating any sort or guard rails.....this is like if the Manhatten Project and developing nuclear tech had been ran by private industry with little government oversight.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 5:33 pm to ThuperThumpin
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Furthermore, none of it matters anyways because we aren't slowing down. Period.
Yes, they're talking out both sides of their mouths. Who knows if it's to cover their asses or not, but you claimed he was clueless about it and that he was wrong when he said it's being pushed by the Russia hoaxsters. On the first point, you don't frickin know what he knows. I tend to agree with him and with the one AI scientist you previously quoted and think that the best defense against AI, is better AI. And for that reason alone, we will not slow down it's development.
And on the point about the people pushing the panic button, is it the industry leaders or is it not? Because you initially said they're the ones sounding the alarm, but you acknowledge that even though they have the power to slow down their damn selves, they aren't. Instead they are dumping everything into it.
Meanwhile, people like Andrew Yang are taking to the media spouting provable frickin lies about it and about how we are all frickin doomed already. While the UK government tries to hold an international summit citing mostly Trump's words about AI development as their impetus for establishing some sort of global pressure on the United States to slow its development while China continues to build unabated.
The simple fact of the matter is this...once a nation achieves AI supremacy, they will have a ubiquitous intelligence supremacy advantage that is unsurmountable and the only defense against AI systems is stronger AI systems. For this reason alone, the United States treats this as a national security concern and will not slow down it's development of these systems under any circumstances.
I can assure you that Trump is not making these decisions in a vacuum. This is a military matter.
And I'll repeat:
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Furthermore, none of it matters anyways because we aren't slowing down. Period.
And with that, maybe we can get back to the subject of the thread, which is Trump renaming more stuff. Not parroting more Chinese propaganda.
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:20 pm to ThuperThumpin
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And what is this non sense he sis saying that the same group of people sounding the alarm on AI are the ones responsible for RUSSIA, RUSSIA ,RUSSIA. Yea the media is covering it but it’s folks in the industry that are sounding the alarm.
My friend if you’re expecting Donald to be accurate and specific in the things he says, yeah that’s not going to happen.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:23 pm to LSUgrad88
There he is, the anti-Trump lapdog. Just an fyi, it is ok to be anti-Trump and not trash him at every mention of his name, near or far. 
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:25 pm to davyjones
What is an anti-Trump lapdog?? Granted you are the consummate lapdog, but who is it I’m being a lapdog for?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:28 pm to LSUgrad88
That’s your response?
I wouldn’t even know where to begin. It’s like a foreign language. Anyhow, I owed you one and took the shot. End of story. At least for me it wasn’t or isn’t a peek into some massive conspiracy or backstory.
I wouldn’t even know where to begin. It’s like a foreign language. Anyhow, I owed you one and took the shot. End of story. At least for me it wasn’t or isn’t a peek into some massive conspiracy or backstory.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:31 pm to AUCom96
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That guy is a complete joke.
you poor poor cuck
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:40 pm to davyjones
I’m just confused who I’m a supposed lapdog for. I know who you’re a lapdog for, you prove it every day. But if you don’t know, you don’t know.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 7:48 pm to LSUgrad88
You’re not able to identify “tongue and cheek,” are you? I’m not actually leveling a literal accusation. Although apparently you’re doing so. But if you insist that I feign inanity, the left. You’re a lapdog for the left. And Iran. 
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:15 pm to davyjones
I can’t tell you the number of people who would explode in laughter if someone referred to me as liberal or a leftist. Don’t get it confused. I’m anti-Trump, period. But you actually probably view him as a conservative, which is laughable in its own right.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:19 pm to SelaTiger
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When that’s all you can do, go all in on it.
Trump is ensuring the USA wins the AI war, and all you can do is focus on a name change. Simple minds are easily distracted.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 8:21 pm to BoarEd
The man knows what he is doing!

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