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re: Here's where I think Trump went wrong re the virus
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:50 pm to DallasTiger11
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:50 pm to DallasTiger11
It’s hindsight bias
You don’t crash an economy because of only a few confirmed cases
It’s easy to say what you say behind a keyboard
If you were in a position of power, you wouldn’t have done anything bold either
You don’t crash an economy because of only a few confirmed cases
It’s easy to say what you say behind a keyboard
If you were in a position of power, you wouldn’t have done anything bold either
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Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
Everyone acts like Trump was the only one downplaying it, when we clearly have video/tweets from the WHO, Fauci, the NIH, and many leaders from both sides telling people we don't need to change our daily lives. How this all became Trump's fault is seriously stupid, and is the real hoax in all of this.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
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He should have instead adopted a Churchillian "we will have to suck it up and fight through stance". It's tough, but we'll face it head on, together.
Jesus Christ, THAT'S WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING!!
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But Trump made what turned out to be a tactical error here - with potentially grave consequences.
Wrong.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:54 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Trump should have - earlier on - not downplayed the significance of the virus. He should have instead adopted a Churchillian "we will have to suck it up and fight through stance". It's tough, but we'll face it head on, together.
You continuously refer to Trump talking it down which is correct.
He was also seeking advice form his his then non task force who also played it down.
Where are your comments for Fauci, WHO, media publications, other major politicians that downplayed it?
Trump was literally saying what EVERYONE was saying at the start. That doesn’t make it right but it doesn’t make him alone in it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:02 pm to SickGainzLP
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think Trump is in trouble in November.
The decisions a man with dementia will make should be awesome.
Joe, what should we do next?
Joe Biden: Purple
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:08 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Trump should have - earlier on - not downplayed the significance of the virus. He should have instead adopted a Churchillian "we will have to suck it up and fight through stance". It's tough, but we'll face it head on, together.
That would require that he has the ability to pull people together. He has never shown that in any endeavor he's ever undertaken. He is the divider-in-chief. Plus it would take away from his sophomoric name-calling. fricking embarrassing.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:09 pm to TailbackU
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Trump should have - earlier on - not downplayed the significance of the virus. He should have instead adopted a Churchillian "we will have to suck it up and fight through stance". It's tough, but we'll face it head on, together.
That would require that he has the ability to pull people together. He has never shown that in any endeavor he's ever undertaken. He is the divider-in-chief. Plus it would take away from his sophomoric name-calling. fricking embarrassing.
Sounds like someone who is truly amenable to being "pulled together".
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:12 pm to roadGator
Biden is a gaffe machine but I suspect his policy will be far clearer in strategy and consistency than Trump's.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:13 pm to CelticDog
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coordination of masks, equipment and outfits sorely lacking. price gouging, states bidding against each other and meddlesome favoritism all mar the potus legacy. how about that vaccine? how about using antibodies? still selling his malaria drug and its long list of neurological side effects. incompetent and a scammer. as if by a miracle.
Again
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:13 pm to Big Scrub TX
BS. His mistake was shutting the entire damned country down.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:14 pm to SickGainzLP
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Biden is a gaffe machine but I suspect his policy will be far clearer in strategy and consistency than Trump's.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:15 pm to TailbackU
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That would require that he has the ability to pull people together. He has never shown that in any endeavor he's ever undertaken. He is the divider-in-chief.
Go back to Twitter with your inane platitudes
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:16 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Sounds like someone who is truly amenable to being "pulled together".
I think A LOT of people would get behind him if he wasn't suck a fricking shitposting a-hole. He has taken away his own ability to gain any consensus on anything. That's what the jizzlapping Trumpbot stooges on this board are fundamentally incapable of understanding.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:16 pm to CelticDog
See, there was a nice convo going and your dumbass showed up. Please please go the frick away.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:26 pm to bird35
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But at the time we did not know what we were dealing with.
We did see horrible things from a overwhelmed Italian heathcare system and we did not know where this was going.
In a world for grownups this shouldn't have mattered for COVID. If the virus was truly lethal enough to warrant cratering the economy and martial law, it would have cut a path of such destruction on its way here that everybody would have known what was necessary without being told (or sold) on the plan. The shutdown has been a colossal mistake and it shouldn't have been hard to see it coming.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:32 pm to Big Scrub TX
I upvoted your post and don't really disagree, but I will also say this: the experts have not always been correct, either. The projections have been all over the place and their advice has shifted. Don't wear a mask! Wear a mask! Etc.
As one who is FAR from being pro-Trump, I feel he has done a reasonably good job of dealing with the virus while failing mainly on the PR front by going off on tangents in the briefings, which were far too long. I love that he has left many issues to the states, which is consistent with their general police powers. Federalism lives! (who knew?) What I would like to see more of going forward is a calm but steadfast reminder, which he will need to repeat, that he is listening to the experts in their fields but that it is up to elected officials such as the president and the governors to decide what policies to enact. An analogy I like is that scientists built the atomic bomb, but our president had to decide whether to drop it.
As one who is FAR from being pro-Trump, I feel he has done a reasonably good job of dealing with the virus while failing mainly on the PR front by going off on tangents in the briefings, which were far too long. I love that he has left many issues to the states, which is consistent with their general police powers. Federalism lives! (who knew?) What I would like to see more of going forward is a calm but steadfast reminder, which he will need to repeat, that he is listening to the experts in their fields but that it is up to elected officials such as the president and the governors to decide what policies to enact. An analogy I like is that scientists built the atomic bomb, but our president had to decide whether to drop it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:35 pm to oilattorney4lsu
quote:Top to bottom rebuild is in order. I think it could serve a useful purpose but folks that have been there 30 years need to seek new life challenges.
The CDC was unprepared and too bureaucratic.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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You don’t crash an economy because of only a few confirmed cases
Who said anything about crashing an economy? That happened anyway and it ended up worse because we were slow to act.
It’s a shame you’ve turned into such a sycophant
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:59 pm to DallasTiger11
quote:What do you mean "we"?
That happened anyway and it ended up worse because we were slow to act.
Most states outside of NY and NJ have been just fine with very modest numbers.
Stop looking at this nationally. You have to break it down by region. Florida, the west coast, the plain states, etc have done just fine.
NY numbers are bringing down the whole country, and yes I am bitter about it because it makes us look bad even though california has done so well.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 4:07 pm to SickGainzLP
A man with dementia is just a gaffe machine? 
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