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Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:06 pm to L.A.
....are all northeasterners jerks? During the last month I've met three transplanted northeasterners and they're all jerks.
frick you assholes.....stay up north.
frick you assholes.....stay up north.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:08 pm to SirWinston
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OMG that was nearly 3.5 years ago. What are you going to drag up next, his kindergarten yearbook from 1945? /s
Access Hollywood tape with Trump was from 2005 and used against him in 2016, therefore anything at least in the last 11 years should be fair game. Right?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:09 pm to ApexTiger
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The notion that farming isn't highly skilled, specialized work is idiotic.
explain why the world went from 98% agricultural to 2 % then...
Wouldn't that be illustrative of the fact that MODERN farming IS quite specialized, and likely rather highly skilled?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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'd wager you learn more on the job in IT than you do in schools.
IT is mostly about helping end users understand how to use a platform, Technology is about how to create the platform, to come up with an idea that the public needs or will need and building it into existence.
IT support can be learned on the job, a lot of Nerds learn by tinkering, but you sure as hell can't be a Network Administrator for company with 1000 end users without passing all the Certifications and having the experience, including a background in security protection.
You can't run a 5 Billion dollar Farm operation without an education either...
A local farmer, farming 100 acres of Corn is probably the farmer Bloomberg had in mind... step, 1, 2 and 3...and you teach your son how to do it...and you work his tale off and it's a living, a hard one at that...
again, I am playing devil's advocate...
I don't like the guy, but that doesn't mean I don't get what he was trying to say in the clip, did you watch it or just read the headline?...hell, this happens to Trump everyday
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:15 pm to ApexTiger
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explain why the world went from 98% agricultural to 2 % then...
You realize this is an incredibly complicated question? I could write a thesis on it. But improvements in technology made production hubs located in cities more lucrative and important with regards to trade, while simultaneous improvements in agricultural practices and the practice of enclosures drove workers to cities after the wealthy were able to purchase public fields. Things that drove the improvements in agriculture were predicated on the Columbian Exchange, new year round crops were grown for animal fodder, and crop rotation improved soil quality, not to mention the benefit of growing nitrogen fixers that could double as animal fodder.
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Explain why college is now considered a "must" by most people to succeed.
The GI bill made college education attainable for the working class, and the continued division of labor meant that college stood for a "signifier" of white-collar labor that wasn't particularly difficult in practice, but dealt with a complex bureaucracy. That's one possible reason put forward. There are numerous.
Regardless, modern farming is highly skilled, specialized work, and has been since the Agricultural Revolution at the minimum.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:19 pm to L.A.
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Bloomberg on why farmers can’t work in information technology MB: “I can teach anyone how to be a farmer 1 dig a hole 2 put a seed in 3 put dirt on top 4 add water 5 up comes the corn” The skill 4information technology is completely different you need more gray matter
Exhibit A on why we need the Electoral College.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:20 pm to L.A.
He can't teach anyone to be a farmer. What an elitist clown.
Farming ain't easy.
Farming ain't easy.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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modern farming is highly skilled, specialized work, and has been since the Agricultural Revolution at the minimum.
Agreed
Big farming, which is subsidized by the American Tax payer is not for Uncle Joe who never finish HS.
Corporate farming is big business..., which requires an education...
again, 2% versus knowing how to build a smart phone
everyone eats, and most everyone has a smartphone...
God provides the seed.. for the farmer, the farmer at the end of the day simple has to work his field...and rely on weather, sun, dirt...again, provided by our creator...
The Geeks make all the money because they have to figure out how to make a "seed" from 0 and 1s that works in Technology...the Geeks have to figure out the dirt, sun, light and so forth...
apples and oranges
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:27 pm to upgrayedd
Will this really be a shock to Dem voters? Don't they already know what the Dem political leaders really think of common people?
I think they do, and, they agree.
I think they do, and, they agree.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:29 pm to ApexTiger
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IT support can be learned on the job, a lot of Nerds learn by tinkering, but you sure as hell can't be a Network Administrator for company with 1000 end users without passing all the Certifications and having the experience, including a background in security protection.
I have known many people with no college education who attained those certificates themselves and are working IT. I know a lot of people who majored in things not related to IT and now work in the field. Hell, the majority of my friends who graduated in the humanities now work in IT.
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A local farmer farming 100 acres of Corn is probably the farm Bloomberg hand in mind...
If a local farmer is running a monoculture operation growing nothing but corn, then yes, this farmer might be a moron. But I don't think that is the majority of farms family-owned farms. Partitioning acreage, sequencing crops, rotating crops, and raising multiple types of crops with animals is probably a more accurate representation of smaller family-owned farms, though again, this isn't my field.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:36 pm to crazy4lsu
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themselves and are working IT. I know a lot of people who majored in things not related to IT and now work in the field. Hell, the majority of my friends who graduated in the humanities now work in IT.
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Can any of your friends build a microchip?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:38 pm to L.A.
If you were among the last people on earth would you want Michael Bloomberg or an actual farmer to be one of your tribe?
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:38 pm to L.A.
I have really come to understand that those of us in the flyover states are absolutely loathed. 
That is perfectly fine by me, but I really was unaware.
That is perfectly fine by me, but I really was unaware.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:39 pm to SirWinston
ISWYDT but still downvoted
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:39 pm to L.A.
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Bloomberg on why farmers can’t work in information technology MB: “I can teach anyone how to be a farmer 1 dig a hole 2 put a seed in 3 put dirt on top 4 add water 5 up comes the corn” The skill 4information technology is completely different you need more gray matter
What's funny is, Bloomy would starve to death if he had to actually farm for himself.
And, if we had to rely on his "gray matter" to feed the rest of us, we'd all starve.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:39 pm to ApexTiger
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To make it in the Technology advance world you can't skip class...and you can't get a job and learn on the job..
Michael Dell
Bill Gates
Mark Zuckerberg
...
Almost a quarter of a trillion in just those three dropouts, much less all the ones they hired.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:41 pm to Ag Zwin
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Michael Dell
Bill Gates
Mark Zuckerberg
...
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:42 pm to L.A.
You could teach most farmers to work in IT. But not the other way around. I would wager most IT professionals don’t have the work ethic. Away from their desks and air conditioning they would completely break down. Also most likely just wouldn’t have the physical ability
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:54 pm to ApexTiger
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Can any of your friends build a microchip?
The average worker in IT couldn't build a microchip, I'd wager, regardless of background. Again, that's an incredibly specialized process, especially given the system requirements needed by modern programs. Not only that, microchip production and design isn't in the purview of let us say, a network administrator, but computer engineers, and is incredibly specialized. If you are telling me that the average IT person get a wafer substrate, do the surface passivation needed to overcome the surface states prevent flow to the semiconductor layer, and then do all the processing work needed to integrate it into a system, then I have some beachfront property to sell you in Kansas.
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