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re: Here’s how and why our kids can’t buy a house. Thanks Obama.

Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:38 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:38 am to
You should move to China.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19562 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:40 am to
Oh, you conveniently leave out the 4 years of the interloper. He's been there 6 months, MENSA..
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2076 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:40 am to
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My 24yo daughter is struggling to pay rent in Nashville and she makes close to $20 an hour. I feel bad for her.
. Does she have roommates? Did she choose the newest apartment in an expensive neighborhood? A lot goes into this assertion.

Also, my daughter is 16 and makes $20/hr babysitting. What is your daughter’s line of work?

I’m not arguing that real estate isn’t expensive. I rode that elevator all the way up and have benefited tremendously. However, I also lived in a shite-arse neighborhood, with a stripped down Mazda and ate noodles for years. That’s what your 20s are supposed to look like.
This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:41 am to
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Inflation is not down


The inflation rate is way down. Under Biden it was running at 8% to 9%. It is now at less than 3%. So please explain how it “is not down”. Then explain price elasticity.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
836 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:43 am to
It’s not down since Trump took office in Jan-25. He’s had nothing to do with it falling from 9ish to the mid-2s
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44313 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:44 am to
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There was a time in this country when being a "worker" still meant a house, 3 kids and 2 cars


One car.

Otherwise…you are correct.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16569 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:45 am to
I'm definitely no fan of Obama, but to blame him is bullshite.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98250 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:45 am to
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Tariffs are unconstitutional
quote:

Tariffs are unconstitutional




Just like inflation isnt down
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
836 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:49 am to
Inflation is up MoM
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98250 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:49 am to
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It’s not down since Trump took office in Jan-25


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Inflation is up MoM


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Period / Measure Headline CPI Inflation Core CPI Inflation

Jan 2025 (Jan ’24 ? Jan ’25) 3.0% 3.3%
Jun 2025 (Jun ’24 ? Jun ’25)** 2.7% 2.9%


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Inflation cooled from 3.0% in January to 2.7% by June.

Core inflation also softened slightly from 3.3% down to 2.9%.

This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 7:51 am
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19357 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:51 am to
Paid back or not it was a bail out for their own mistakes, and they were not stupid mistakes as they had to know that hammer would drop. They hid the bad loans among good ones when selling them. It wasn’t a so much question of not doing due diligence for investors when the banks were blatantly dishonest. And here they are again that everyone should own a home regardless of abilities to pay off debt
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19562 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:51 am to
You should refrain from posting until you educate yourself.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:52 am to
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It’s not down since Trump took office in Jan-25. He’s had nothing to do with it falling from 9ish to the mid-2s


Damn you are easily brainwashed. Run along little comrade!
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38422 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:55 am to
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Point out the flaws in my logic. 95% of the people that build homes around me are Latino. What has Trump done to lower housing prices in his 4.5 years in office.
Let's look at this from a long term approach from the past. So maybe building costs have been kept artificially low because of the shite ton of illegal labor that's been allowed into our country for years now.
Posted by IMSA_Fan
Member since Jul 2024
836 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:55 am to
Touché - it’s down 10 bps since, Feb-25, Trump’s first month in office and currently heading in the wrong durection
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:59 am to
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So maybe building costs have been kept artificially low because of the shite ton of illegal labor that's been allowed into our country for years now.

That's going to be an issue with a nation of over-price homes and high interest rates
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98250 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 7:59 am to
How is it heading in the wrong direction?

Its obvious you have no idea what the frick you are talking about


Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6035 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:01 am to
Well boy wonder, the very people who wrote the Constitution used tariffs as the main source of tax revenue, really throws a wrench into the whole “unconstitutional” argument. Flooding the nation with illegal immigrants isn’t exactly enforcing the laws you so passionately defend and by the way driving up treasury yields is one of the key strategies in lowering interest rates. So, in a nutshell you are a child
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:11 am to
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quote:There was a time in this country when being a "worker" still meant a house, 3 kids and 2 cars One car. Otherwise…you are correct.


I dont think people really conceptualize the world young people live in today. The deck is stacked so far against young folks. Dating has been destroyed by social media and the full steam push to have women thrust into the full-time workforce. Inflation has wrecked buying power and its feast or famine in the job market.

The job market necessitates ingenuity and entrepreneurship...but parents, teachers, counselors are still telling kids to go into massive debt and get college degrees.

A job today...could be something technology can do by itself tomorrow(or a decade from now for you semantics literalists)

Kids are applying for hundreds of jobs and hearing nothing. We are telling kids "sorry about the 50k in student debt for your worthless degree...but you should suck it up and go to trade school now"

I dont think Boomers and Xers comprehend the anger and frustration of young people now...especially young men
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139033 posts
Posted on 7/26/25 at 8:12 am to
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Here’s how and why our kids can’t buy a house
Affordability today is a problem. No question. But the problem is more recent than 2008.

Kids can't buy a house today because during covid, as the attractiveness of urban socialization dried up, demand for suburban home ownership began to escalate. That trend has continued, driving home prices up.

At the same time horrendous supply chain management during the Biden years sent inflation (and home loan interest rates) soaring. Loan rates remain higher than at any point 20 years prior to Biden's term

It is the combination of high rates AND high prices that makes it so hard on home buyers today. If either were lower, buyers would have a much easier go of it.

Here's a breakdown from another thread:
quote:

In 1991, median home prices were ~$78K
Rates for 30yr loans were ~10%. Median Income was ~$30K/yr (~$2500/m). So monthly financing ran ~$615/m or about 25% of the $2500/m

In 2021, median home prices were ~$347K (massively up, 17% Y2Y over 2020). Rates for 30yr loans were ~3.1%. Median Income was ~$72K/yr (~$6K/m) So monthly financing ran ~$1350/m or about 22% of the $6000/m

Now to be clear, that 2021 home was much, much nicer than it's 1991 counterpart. Median home size in 1991 was 1400sqft vs 2530sqft in 2021. Appointments were likewise far better in the median 2021 home.

So in 2021 you could buy a far nicer home than folks in 1991 at a slightly lower monthly cost relative to salary.
So IMO, the Trump-Biden transition was the real threshold


This post was edited on 7/26/25 at 8:17 am
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