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re: Help me prove my bro in law wrong...Covid

Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
18133 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:15 pm to
For an opener, ask why his party is releasing prisoners if mask wearing protects others from infection?
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15016 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:15 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61748 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

bro in law is giving me shite about not wearing a mask. Says it's no different than PPE in a plant. Says the numbers are up bc people weren't wearing masks.



Ask him to be specific on how effective masks are.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:17 pm to
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover-guidance.html

quote:

Cloth face coverings are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when the person wearing the cloth face covering coughs, sneezes, talks, or raises their voice. This is called source control. This recommendation is based on what we know about the role respiratory droplets play in the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19, paired with emerging evidence from clinical and laboratory studies that shows cloth face coverings reduce the spray of droplets when worn over the nose and mouth. COVID-19 spreads mainly among people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet), so the use of cloth face coverings is particularly important in settings where people are close to each other or where social distancing is difficult to maintain.
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:17 pm to
He says the proof is that the number of cases have gone up with the increase of people going to bars/social gathering without masks, etc
Posted by beastieboys
South Jordan, UT
Member since Jan 2008
2193 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:19 pm to
This isn’t political and isn’t debatable. The faster a country made masks mandatory the fewer deaths they’ve had.

Global News

quote:

“It wasn’t just by a few per cent, it was up to a hundred times less mortality. The countries that introduced masks from the very beginning of their outbreak have had hardly any deaths.”

Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22463 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

If masks are so protective, then why weren’t they mandated nationwide back in March?




If masks aren't that protective, why did dentists/doctors wear them before Covid?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88489 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

Ask him to be specific on how effective masks are.
What did the most effective countries do that we didn’t?

Are masks not something they used to mitigate the spread?
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12315 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

Says it's no different than PPE in a plant


He is correct about this. For it to work it has to be designed for the hazard, it has to fit probably and it has be used correctly.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4599 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:20 pm to
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Sleep with his wife.
What if bil is sister's husband? Better or worse? I guess it does the trick either way.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94672 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Cloth face coverings are recommended as a simple barrier to help prevent respiratory droplets from traveling into the air and onto other people when the person wearing the cloth face covering coughs, sneezes, talks, or raises their voice.


I'm not sick, though. If I was sick, I just wouldn't go out. I suppose if I was sick and I HAD to go out (doctor, pharmacy, etc.), I would voluntarily wear a mask.

But in every other circumstances it is bullshite virtue signalling nonsense.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94672 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

The faster a country made masks mandatory the fewer deaths they’ve had.



So, we should just mandate masks and open everything up, then?

You on board, baw?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

I'm not sick, though. If I was sick, I just wouldn't go out. I suppose if I was sick and I HAD to go out (doctor, pharmacy, etc.), I would voluntarily wear a mask.

But in every other circumstances it is bullshite virtue signalling nonsense.



The virus can spread without you know you have it.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:22 pm to
President wore a mask today. If he didn’t act like it was a personal attack on him all his cult followers would not have their panty’s in a wad.
Posted by beastieboys
South Jordan, UT
Member since Jan 2008
2193 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

I'm not sick, though. If I was sick, I just wouldn't go out.


It’s amazing... this far into to the pandemic and some people are still so uninformed on COVID.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94672 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

It’s amazing... this far into to the pandemic and some people are still so uninformed on COVID.


"Muh asymptomatic spread" - another fairy tale.


I guess Time is a far right wing science denying site?
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15873 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:27 pm to
Tell your brother in law that you agree in some respects but that getting out and standing up for equality by speaking truth to power was worth it. Then ask why he’s a racist.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
11880 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:31 pm to
Poor attempt at a gotcha.
quote:

Says the numbers are up bc people weren't wearing masks.


It’s the timing of the mask mandate in response to cases spiking that’s in question, not their effectiveness at reducing the transmission of COVID-19.
Posted by Black
My own little world
Member since Jul 2009
22244 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:31 pm to
He just changed his argument from masks work to masks make people feel better
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:31 pm to
Wearing a mask is the same thing as stockpiling toilet paper. It will have almost no effect if any but people need to have the delusion of being in control and being proactive. The science is actually pretty compelling...masks worth good in conjunction with social distancing. A mask alone is nearly worthless. But if it makes people feel like they have some control I have no problem with that....but I am certain beyond doubt they will soon come to the conclusion that a mask by itself is all that is needed and will forego staying at home. We should have never shut down in the first place because anyone with any sense knew it was not sustainable....but usually when you do something half assed like shutting down and not being committed to doing so for years the end result is going to be half assed....
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