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re: Hegseth Impeachment: Not JUST War Powers - Massie lists 8 grounds

Posted on 9/16/26 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 2:45 pm to
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He wants to setup the peachmints for his buddies like Ro.


Listening to Massie speaking now, it's pretty clear that this isn't really even about impeachment.

His speech is a thorough, broad indictment of foreign intervention. This is a purely political act. Massie is hoping to launch his independent 2028 America First presidential bid.

They're only 428 people watching the stream that I am. Massie isn't getting the level of attention he wants.

Johnson's decision to close the House is about the only thing that will give this stunt much impact.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 9/16/26 at 2:49 pm to
Isn't really about peachmint lol
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 6:11 am to
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It’s mimicking Massie in real life. Side with the Dems to whine about Trump.


You didn't see any of this division before Trump broke from the DOGE cuts, then bombed Iran, and now a full on war campaign against Iran.

The people this board says betrayed Trump and side with Dems, are just disgusted with the administration so far. They are the same people with the same beliefs.

You and the rest of the Trump faithful are full on aligned with Mark Levin, Miriam Adelson, Ben Shapiro, Lindsey Graham, Randy Fine, AIPAC, and others who 1000% support Israel first. First term never Trumpers are full on MAGA now with you.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 6:18 am to
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full on war campaign against Iran


Full on? Clown
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13660 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 6:28 am to
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And y'all accuse others of having TDS?

You were the one who first brought Trump up in your own thread about Massie so...


Yeah. You have it.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:05 am to
NO shite
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11419 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:17 am to
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You were the one who first brought Trump up in your own thread about Massie so...
Yeah. You have it.


Rational people define TDS as "being against something just because Trump did it." It's an allegation of a double standard.

I was just pointing out to those criticizing Massie for being petty that if that is a bad trait in a politician, a rational person - NOT APPLYING A DOUBLE STANDARD - would have to rate Trump the WORST from that metric.

Here's what I wrote (without a trace of Massie worship or Trump disparagement...just comparing apples to apples):

"Massie is probably doing this just for revenge on Hegseth for campaigning against him. Is there anyone who practices political revenge more ruthlessly and successfully than President Trump?

Seeking political revenge is noble if Trump does it, but outrageous if another politician does it? And y'all accuse others of having TDS? Sheesh"
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:19 am to
You have severe TDS cuckeye
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11419 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:33 am to
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Isn't really about peachmint lol


Try to keep up. This is an unprincipled, political stunt by Massie disguised as a motion to impeach (oh noes!!! IvoryBill is a MassHole!!!).

The only ground that had a chance of leading to conviction/removal was Article V about the killing of survivors. If Massie had been serious about impeachment, he would have filed the motion shortly after that incident.

Instead, he got his feelings hurt that Hegseth flew to his district to campaign against Massie and waited for the right time to seek impeachment.

Embarrassment of Hegseth and launching his independent, America First presidential campaign are what motivated Massie.

So, this is not about impeachment. Any questions?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:35 am to
Sure thing Ivory sure thing.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11419 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:39 am to
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You have severe TDS cuckeye


Congratulations. 2 lies in a 5-word sentence.

Seriously, what's your creepy obsession with possible alters? Do you think there are just so few people that disagree with you that they must have alters to make it appear that there are more of them?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
93067 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:40 am to
So he charges Hegseth with knowingly following an illegal order?

But it isn't about laying the ground work for Drumpf's impeachment?
Posted by JellyRoll
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:40 am to
This post was edited on 9/17/26 at 7:44 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11419 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:59 am to
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So he charges Hegseth with knowingly following an illegal order?

But it isn't about laying the ground work for Drumpf's impeachment?


Again, try to keep up. It's not about impeachment. It's Massie being unprincipled. He is doing this for political and revenge purposes.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 7:59 am to
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He is doing this for political and revenge purposes.


No shite
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11419 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:02 am to
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No shite


Right. This is why it's funny when people call me a MassHole. I don't think Massie is perfect or a Republican loyalist.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:03 am to
Just imagine if he cared about his constituents he wouldn’t be a lame duck getting revenge but hey that’s American politics from the most staunch conservative
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100525 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:05 am to
Why does calling you out for the alter you are creepy?

Just come clean cuckeye everyone knows it you
Posted by JellyRoll
Member since Apr 2024
2375 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:07 am to
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possible alters?



Oh Hank, stop it.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5587 posts
Posted on 9/17/26 at 8:08 am to
Ivory likes to call people alters but doesn’t like it when it’s done to him.
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