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re: Heather Heyer's mom lost a loved one at Sandy Hook too, according to 8chan.

Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:50 pm to
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Most of the links are gone now. Here's one that I did find.


I have video of ME when my daughter died several hours after she was born. In that video, you would see me smiling and semi laughing in response to my sister in law saying something regarding the fact that in her few hours of life, my daughter had still managed to poo on me. You don't hear or see my sis in law in the vid.

Your entire shtick, as always, is to focus on the narrow and tell, "that's strange" but never address the HOW of your stupid theories because the HOW would be 100x stranger.

And nope. The fact i smiled and laughed on video isn't proof my daughter didn't die even if it might like strange to a moron like you.
Posted by PetroBabich
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Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:52 pm to
An alternate interpretation would be the guy had a brief moment of levity over some comment or conversation off camera before he had step up to the mic and come back to the reality of the fact his kid had just been murdered.

I've seen people laugh in conversations at funerals and even when family has been gathered to visit a dying relative.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:58 pm to
To add to my prior post.

Men are funny. When my daughter died, i felt it important to keep it together for my wife. I was pretty good at it too.

The day after she passed, i went to the hospital snack bar which is near the maternity ward. As you can imagine, most of the people there were happy.

People greeted me and with a smile , i greeted them back the same way. I should also note, horror of horrors, i was clean because I'd showered!

On my way out the door, one of the nurses who knew what happened passed me and said she was sorry for my loss. And, my entire facade folded completely.

I turned instantly into an emotional mess. I was fine right up until i had to acknowledge it with words.

So. You Tx sir don't know frick about frick
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:59 pm to
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I have video of ME when my daughter died several hours after she was born. In that video, you would see me smiling and semi laughing in response to my sister in law saying something regarding the fact that in her few hours of life, my daughter had still managed to poo on me.
Wow.
TT's post was unfortunate enough when it was depersonalized.

But if your experience doesn't cause him to reset his perspective, there's little hope.

So sorry you lost a child. God Bless.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 2:59 pm to
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What's your theory on how they go about recruiting folks to be "in on it"?
It depends on the situation. People are already "in place." There isn't a need to "recruit" folks to be "in on it."

You have orchestration at the top, and then you have actors that are either willing dupes or compartmentalized helpers.

For example; a guy who manufactures fertilizer has no idea he's selling it to someone who intends on making a bomb out of it.
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there had to be a substantial number of people involved even if it wasn't the "whole town", right?
Why? Why would there need to be a substantial number of people, and what is your definition of substantial?

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Do you think everyone they reach out to just goes along and buys in on the idea that we are going to secretly stage the murder of your kid and you will have to relocate him/her under a new identity elsewhere for the rest of their lives?
Oh, I believe children went missing that day. I just don't believe they were murdered as the official story is telling us. Sure there were people murdered, but I suspect those children were kidnapped for reasons I'd rather not even discuss. And I suspect that Sandy Hook was a message to somebody.
There are far too many unanswered questions about that event, just like 9/11, for someone to stand up and say they know what happened on those days.

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How can they be sure that NOBODY balks at such an idea and rats them out?
Because for the most part, those who do the dirty work are either willing dupes or compartmentalized and have no clue that their part resulted in the bigger picture (see the fertilizer example).

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I'm guessing you'd suggest there's some sort of proverbial 'offer they can't refuse', but what exactly could that possibly be, such that they are 100% sure that NOBODY will crack and expose this thing?
You've got slimeballs doing slimeball things. They're all compromised. They speak up, they go down, too. And they know it.

Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:00 pm to
Yeah.

Their entire conspiracy seems to be only based on "people are not acting the way I think they should be acting"

This is one of the weakest conspiracies I've seen
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:04 pm to
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So sorry you lost a child. God Bless.


Thank you

I've talked about her on here before.

But sheesh. This crap about people pretending they know how people are "supposed" to act when they've lost a child is maddening.

I can tell you this. It took my wife almost 6 months to cry about it.

Is that normal? It sure doesn't seem normal. She didn't even cry the day it happened.

Then. At 6 months, she fell into a maddening depression.

No one "knows" what "normal" is in tragedy
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I have video of ME when my daughter died several hours after she was born. In that video, you would see me smiling and semi laughing in response to my sister in law saying something regarding the fact that in her few hours of life, my daughter had still managed to poo on me. You don't hear or see my sis in law in the vid.

My sincerest condolences. I can't even imagine the pain.

Your situation is nothing like raising that child and then having it murdered. And then the following morning, after a good night's sleep, rested and all cleaned up, laughing before you reach the mike and then trying to muster up a tear-less emotion.

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of your stupid theories
I don't have theories. I have unanswered questions. You don't seem to know the difference.

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to a moron like you.
Why are you so angry?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:06 pm to
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Their entire conspiracy seems to be only based on "people are not acting the way I think they should be acting"
There is no stereotype for reaction to death of a loved one. None. Especially early on.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Why are you so angry


Well. If i were that father in the video you stupidly think is evidence, and you asserted that in person, your next act would probably be to choose which type of Jello you preferred.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:08 pm to
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An alternate interpretation would be the guy had a brief moment of levity over some comment or conversation off camera before he had step up to the mic and come back to the reality of the fact his kid had just been murdered.
I can't imagine smiling for any reason just hours after my child had been murdered. I also can't imagine getting a good night's sleep after having my child murdered, much less get cleaned up to conduct an interview the morning after.

Maybe that's just me.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:09 pm to
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I can't even imagine the pain.
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Your situation is nothing like
Good Lord man!

You "can't even imagine," but then you have gall to declare what you imagine his situation is like?

Do you hear yourself?
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:11 pm to
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I turned instantly into an emotional mess. I was fine right up until i had to acknowledge it with words.
Did you cry? This guy never cried. Not a tear. He tried, they just didn't come out. They eyes didn't even well up. Nothing. And I saw him do a couple of interviews the same way.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:13 pm to
I've lost a parent in a freak accident so I also understand how strange it is to grieve after a sudden loss. That being said, it's utterly ridiculous to base your opinion on whether Sandy Hook was real or not based on how you think someone you don't know should have acted after their child was just killed.

When it delves into this, I usually check out. Not worth debating with someone who bases their opinion on that.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Their entire conspiracy seems to be only based on "people are not acting the way I think they should be acting"
Well, it's odd behavior, but it certainly isn't the only thing surrounding the questions raised about Sandy Hook.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:13 pm to
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I can't imagine smiling for any reason just hours after my child had been murdered. I also can't imagine getting a good night's sleep after having my child murdered, much less get cleaned up to conduct an interview the morning after.

Maybe that's just me.


It's not just you

It's ANYONE who hasn't gone through tragedy or, even just isn't that person.

You are left to only IMAGINE what you might do.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85660 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:14 pm to
Yeah, we know TX Tiger is usually all high and mighty and the only enlightened guy in the room, but he's really showing his arse here.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:15 pm to
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Did you cry? This guy never cried. Not a tear. He tried, they just didn't come out.

Yep. But. Like i said. My wife didn't.

Would you typically predict that? I doubt it
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
39349 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Well. If i were that father in the video you stupidly think is evidence, and you asserted that in person,
I don't care enough about it to assert that in person.

I viewed it as strange behavior surrounding an incident of strange happenings with fake news trying to tell me what to believe about it.

I'm skeptical. If that makes you angry, you should perhaps seek professional help.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138920 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 3:19 pm to
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I can tell you this. It took my wife almost 6 months to cry about it.

Is that normal? It sure doesn't seem normal.
There is no "normal" in such situations. There is only a slow uncharted path to some degree of recovery.
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