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re: He was just out for a jog!
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Sure, but in the same way a homeowner who tries to fight off an intruder and gets shot "caused" himself to be shot.
If by homeowner you mean a thief who's on probation for stealing, caught casing someone's property, and who refuses to wait for police, sure it's exactly like a homeowner who tries to fight off an intruder and gets shot.
I'm not saying that the father/son duo isn't guilty, just that you're doing an extreme disservice to homeowners actually shot and killed trying to fight off intruders.
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:05 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Maybe he was interested in being a carpenter.
You know, like Jesus.
Well let's give him a few days to resurrect.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:55 pm to dgnx6
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But of course the same people that say abolish prisons and police think rittenhouse deserves jail.
Yep. What they actually mean is "white people shouldn't have any defense."
Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:00 pm to vol-boy
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He was up to no good.
Started making trouble in my neighborhood!
Posted on 11/11/21 at 11:52 pm to Tiger n Austin
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Totally deserved to be murdered.
I won't go that far
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:24 am to bhtigerfan
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You idiots act like Aubrey has no blame here. He assaulted the guy and tried to get the gun from him. Lesson to you idiots, don’t grab the barrel of a loaded shotgun that’s pointed at you. Most rational people, if someone points a gun at you, you put your hands up and surrender. You don’t attack them. If he would have done that, he’d be alive today, and the two yahoos would probably have menacing charges against them.
Arbery’s greatest misstep wasn’t casing a construction site or moving more quickly than a walk in the McMichaels’ neighborhood. It was not carrying a gun.
He had many, many opportunities to stand his ground during the hunt but for the fact he wasn’t armed to defend himself.
It’s bleakly funny that his tormentors get to try for self defense because their victim was largely defenseless and left with nothing but desperate measures.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 12:35 am
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:32 am to Coleridge
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Arbery’s greatest misstep wasn’t casing a construction site or moving more quickly than a walk in the McMichael’s neighborhood. It was not arming himself.
Considering his criminal history I don't think he was allowed to legally possess a firearm.
So you should really be lamenting about his own criminal behavior, which if he wasn't partaking in he wouldn't have been looking for shite to steal and wouldn't have been chased in the first place.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:38 am to Azkiger
Yeah I bet if he had things to do over again he’d probably not worry about whether he was legally allowed to carry in light of the armed vigilantes who gunned him down.
Stand your ground laws are meant to protect people in Arbery’s position, not the tormentors.
Stand your ground laws are meant to protect people in Arbery’s position, not the tormentors.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 12:43 am
Posted on 11/12/21 at 12:42 am to Coleridge
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Yeah I bet if he had things to do over again he’d probably not worry about whether he was legally allowed to carry in light of the armed vigilantes who killed him.
No he's a criminal, he doesn't care about the law. That comment was aimed at you, if you're going to stand on the law and talk about Arbery being armed you might as well be consistent, right?
Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:59 am to touchdownjeebus
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So a kid went through a construction site. Is it wrong? yes. Have kids done this thousands of times before? Yes. Did he deserve to die for it? Absolutely not.
This. He did it five teams. Were thefts reported five times? It is my understanding that none were reported (at least not at that house - there were thefts elsewhere but no indication that it was him).
I am NOT into the stuff I am going to link, I get creeped out by unbuilt and abaondened places, they seem spooky. Can't explain it. But there seem to be many people who like investigating them.
Youtube of this hobby -
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Forbidden places, some abandoned some the opposite (as yet not finished)
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Urban scouting about site -
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I'm sorry, he did not deserve to get shot for poking around a construction site.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 4:50 am to vodkacop
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So you're saying its ok to steal other peoples stuff. Got it.
No one said it is. Also, no one has shown that he stole anything that day.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 4:59 am to Big Scrub TX
if he was an avid jogger, shouldn't he have... oh, never mind.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:19 am to the808bass
quote:I'm smart enough to know not to try to fight a guy with a gun pointed at me. You have to be some kind of special thinker, to advance on a person with a gun, when you are unarmed. Most would correctly predict the likely outcome of that.
You left out a couple things. Before he tried to take the gun, they pointed the gun at him, and also hit him with their truck.
That being said, these guys crossed the line when they went after him. I assume they thought he had stole something, and even if he had, it's a non-violent crime and he posed no threat of bodily harm after leaving the scene. In my humble opinion, they are guilty of some crimes, just not so sure about murder.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:22 am to Azkiger
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No he's a criminal, he doesn't care about the law. That comment was aimed at you, if you're going to stand on the law and talk about Arbery being armed you might as well be consistent, right?
Kyle Rittenhouse couldn't legally carry the weapon he used. Do you think he should be convicted for killing those people?
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:22 am to vol-boy
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He was up to no good
Starting making trouble on the neighborhood
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:36 am to Seldom Seen
I just like they way they show a 7 year old yearbook photo of Ahmad but show the mugshot of the accused....there is no attempt to influence public perception.....take it from me because I once scored 4 touchdowns for Polk county in the city championship.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Kyle Rittenhouse couldn't legally carry the weapon he used.
Wrong.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 6:51 am to greygoose
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they are guilty of some crimes, just not so sure about murder.
You should read up on felony murder criteria in GA.
Posted on 11/12/21 at 7:20 am to Eurocat
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I'm sorry, he did not deserve to get shot for poking around a construction site.
You people... He wasn't shot simple for poking around a construction site. If that were the case the father and son do would have opened fire immediately. That doesn't mean Arbery wasn't acting in self defense when he reached for the song's shotgun. But that's why he was shot.
This post was edited on 11/12/21 at 7:22 am
Posted on 11/12/21 at 7:24 am to Turbeauxdog
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Wrong.
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To open carry, you need to be at least 18 years old. While permits are not required to carry a gun unconcealed, gun owners need a license to carry a weapon in a concealed manner. Also, cities or counties cannot make laws on gun possession that conflict with the state’s open carry laws.
How old was he during this incident?
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