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re: Have we discussed Daily Stormer and Stormfront getting banned from the internet?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:45 am to Tiguar
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:45 am to Tiguar
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his wording insinuated he somehow blamed it.
No not at all just the opposite. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy of people who make a big show abou how an end of "net neutrality" will lead to censorship, yet they are silent about ACTUAL censorship.
I actually AGREE that muh interweb should be a public utility. Don't really know why you're getting so touchy about it tbh.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 9:47 am
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:46 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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That's right, but in reality it's a distinction without a difference
Nothing stops them finding another ISP.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:49 am to el Gaucho
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Is it possible for them to find a non cuck isp and bring it back online?
Why is the ISP "cuck" for not wanting to house a white supremacy site? Would you lease office space or a store front in your strip mall to Daily Stormer?
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:50 am to bamafan1001
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I dont think they were banned, their hosting service providers just dropped them.
They should just find a hosting service provider that will take them. They bring bad publicity to the company. SO basically DS and Stormfront = Colin Kapernick.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:50 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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I think he's trying to say that the principles of non-prejudicial treatment of internet traffic regardless of source (Net neutrality) should extend to the actual hosting of said content, because if it doesn't, it is effectively a workaround of net neutrality.
For example, if I want to grant preferential treatment to internet traffic but NN stops me, what stops me from gaining control of hosts and just taking down the sites I don't want to treat the same, thereby creating preferential treatment of Internet traffic by default?
Yes exactly right. Better than I could have said it. Thank you.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 9:59 am to LSUTigersVCURams
It seems that the current environment is creating confusion over first amendment rights and our obligations as citizens to provide venues for despicable speech. A lot of that confusion is related to Antifa's expansive definition of "nazi" and "white supremacy" to include simply conservative thinkers. The reaction by some on the right (the less sophisticated) seems to go beyond just the defense of first amendment rights for all speech to a belief in an obligation by everyone to give a platform to actual nazis and white supremacists.
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 10:00 am
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:01 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Because your wording was extremely poor and made it look like you were blaming it. Surely you can see why I would think you were a dumbass for that
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:06 am to LSUTigersVCURams
The real Nazis are the ones who ban the flow of thoughts and information.
Why would you ban the ideas of some nutcases? Does it somehow threaten your own message?
I guess your message has some holes in it,that must be what you are afraid of.
Why would you ban the ideas of some nutcases? Does it somehow threaten your own message?
I guess your message has some holes in it,that must be what you are afraid of.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:09 am to cwill
Look who you're responding to.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:12 am to cwill
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The reaction by some on the right (the less sophisticated) seems to go beyond just the defense of first amendment rights for all speech to a belief in an obligation by everyone to give a platform to actual nazis and white supremacists.
Do you want to live in a world where a handful of tech companies gets to decide what is and is not on the internet? Because I don't. Whatever else white supremacy is, it is a political theory. Are you cool with websites getting deplatformed for their political stance? Because I'm not.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:15 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Do you want to live in a world where a handful of tech companies gets to decide what is and is not on the internet? Because I don't. Whatever else white supremacy is, it is a political theory. Are you cool with websites getting deplatformed for their political stance? Because I'm not.
So you're cool with the government forcing bakeries to bake cakes for gay weddings?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:16 am to auggie
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Why would you ban the ideas of some nutcases? Does it somehow threaten your own message?
I guess your message has some holes in it,that must be what you are afraid of.
Exactly! And I mean these Naxi's whole thing is that Jews control the media and they're trying to shut down dissent. So what does Google (its founders are ethnically jewish that is just a fact) do? They shut down the most popular neo nazi site! Allowing the nazis to say "Look, see! It's true." It's crazy.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:16 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Do you want to live in a world where a handful of tech companies gets to decide what is and is not on the internet? Because I don't. Whatever else white supremacy is, it is a political theory. Are you cool with websites getting deplatformed for their political stance? Because I'm not.
Why do you hate capitalism?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:17 am to cwill
They capitulated to the desires of lefties, therefore becoming cucks
The isp didn't read through the list of websites they host and find this site, some cuck lefty probably sent them an email to bring it to their attention
This is the equivalent to protesting at a Trump rally
The isp didn't read through the list of websites they host and find this site, some cuck lefty probably sent them an email to bring it to their attention
This is the equivalent to protesting at a Trump rally
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:17 am to cwill
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So you're cool with the government forcing bakeries to bake cakes for gay weddings?
If there were only a handful of bakeries in the country, and they were some of the most powerful entities in the country, I would want the government to use the antitrust laws to break up the Big Pastry cabal, yes.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:18 am to TotesMcGotes
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Why do you hate capitalism?
Why do you love runaway crony capitalism?
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:18 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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Exactly! And I mean these Naxi's whole thing is that Jews control the media and they're trying to shut down dissent. So what does Google (its founders are ethnically jewish that is just a fact) do? They shut down the most popular neo nazi site! Allowing the nazis to say "Look, see! It's true." It's crazy.
This perfectly illustrates the confusion and insanity.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:20 am to LSUTigersVCURams
You just suggested a problem with capitalism, frickin communist!
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:21 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Immediately before the deplatforming of the site, the Ceo of the isp was heard saying "shut it down" into a walkie talkie
Posted on 9/3/17 at 10:22 am to LSUTigersVCURams
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If there were only a handful of bakeries in the country, and they were some of the most powerful entities in the country, I would want the government to use the antitrust laws to break up the Big Pastry cabal, yes.
Breaking up companies under the anti-trust laws is different than forcing them to provide services. White Supremacists can still deliver their message, they just may not be able to broadcast through a privately owned platform.
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