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re: Has the Left ever articulated what they suspect Trump and Russia of colluding over?

Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:04 pm to
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:04 pm to
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He's the President of the US. Try again.



and a great Tweeter in Chief
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
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dude "delegitimizes" himself


How stupid

Bush was legitimately the President, Obama was legitimately the President, and now Trump is legitimately the President.

Unreal that that has to be explained to an adult.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:07 pm to
The bottom line....podestra voluntarily entered his login credentials to a fishing scheme. The emails opened up Pandora's box of dnc bad doings.

At the same time, Trey Gowdys relentless pursuit of the Bengazi story gave us the emails from Hilary's server. Which gave us Huma and all others passing classified docs and committing felonies.

All of this did and would have happened even if DT were dead. Why they think anything will point back to trump is irrelevant, because it won't. On top of that, Russia LOVES Hillary, who bartered a deal to sell the uranium thru her brother!

But somehow, dems are morons en mass and think if Donalds campaign asked them to release before the election (which they would have anyway), that he somehow would be a hardened criminal.

Oh, and we should forget about there crimes, while we are at it
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:09 pm to
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dude "delegitimizes" himself


Wrong.

In order to delegitimize a person they have to be legitimate to begin with.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:09 pm to
Here is all you need to know about Democrats

If Trump were a Democrat and everything else was exactly the same , they would be defending this guy tooth and nail.

Democrats have only 1 principle, that being not to have any principles. They truly are scum.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Trump is a secret Russian agent who worked with elite hackers


Yep, it's complete fiction,

fantasy actually.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:11 pm to
Either DJT is the biggest bumbling idiot ever to wake up one morning and realize he's in the WH, or he's such a brilliant schemer and colluder that he's managed to team up with Putin and short circuit the ENTIRE American election system. Dems can't have it both ways. You have to pick one.

Occam says that he ran a better campaign and played to score the most points using the system we currently have, and She ran a shitshow and phoned it it because it was Her turn.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23450 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:11 pm to
Best part is, the Russians narrative was made up by the HRC campaign to distract from the leaks. The connection to the trump campaign is fan fiction that evolved later on.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:14 pm to
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Either DJT is the biggest bumbling idiot ever to wake up one morning and realize he's in the WH, or he's such a brilliant schemer and colluder that he's managed to team up with Putin and short circuit the ENTIRE American election system. Dems can't have it both ways. You have to pick one.

Occam says that he ran a better campaign and played to score the most points using the system we currently have, and She ran a shitshow and phoned it it because it was Her turn.



It is odd isn't it that liberals simultaneously claim Trump is inept and claim that he is somehow involved in a conspiracy that got him elected even though Americans preferred Hillary all under the nose of the FBI while leaving zero trail that he was involved...


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112904 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Wrong.

In order to delegitimize a person they have to be legitimate to begin with.




Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:16 pm to
It's weird to me that even the "sensible" neocons like Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer and John McCain seem to speak in such somber tones about "Trump's possible Russian ties". Sometimes they side with truth over politics, so it's tough to gauge when they'll support the Dems or when they'll side with logic.

Are they just intentionally muddying the water to damage Trump and try to foment resistance to him among GOPe elected officials?

I suppose it makes sense that if they prefered Hillary over Trump then they would support these Russia theories. But some of them diverge - like last night Karl "Ham" Rove was defending Trump firing Comey while Kraut and Kristol are "gravely concerned".
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:21 pm to
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It's weird to me that even the "sensible" neocons like Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer and John McCain seem to speak in such somber tones about "Trump's possible Russian ties". Sometimes they side with truth over politics, so it's tough to gauge when they'll support the Dems or when they'll side with logic.

Are they just intentionally muddying the water to damage Trump and try to foment resistance to him among GOPe elected officials?

I suppose it makes sense that if they prefered Hillary over Trump then they would support these Russia theories. But some of them diverge - like last night Karl "Ham" Rove was defending Trump firing Comey while Kraut and Kristol are "gravely concerned".


These guys hate Trump because he is upsetting their applecart.

I mean there are Republicans who are pissed off because the firing was so abrupt . Normally in DC, you fire someone by leaking the fact that they are being fired, and week later they resign. Not just dude is fired while out to lunch one day he comes back to work and his key card doesn't work lol. Trump fired the guy like a businessman would just "boom he's out"

Just another example of Trump upsetting the power structure in DC that these guys have built themselves over the last 40 years and they don't want to give up their power, regardless of party.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:21 pm to
I think McCain genuinely hates Trump because of the "I like people who didn't get captured" comment, Graham is insane with jealousy thinking he should be president, and Kristol well we all know why Kristol doesn't like Trump don't we.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43139 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:24 pm to
Good question - what is the alleged crime??

Remember the FBI only does criminal investigations. So there must be an actual "crime" hidden somewhere behind the DEM/MSM fevered brows
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5212 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:26 pm to
Russia was trying to get Trump to pick up where Obama left off when he unwittingly was recorded telling Medvedev to tell Vlad that he would have more flexibility to (collude; hint, hint, meddle in our election so I will win) act favorably towards mother Russia

Obama does it on record and liberals are ok with it

there is no evidence that Trump colluded and he is excoriated

are you libs proud today?
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Remember the FBI only does criminal investigations


Untrue

They also run investigations into matters of national security that may or may not turn into criminal cases.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
This whole thing is based on an obvious joke trump said about Russia finding the witch's emails
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7785 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:27 pm to
What does your wife have to do with this mate?
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