re: Has anyone considered that this execution debacle could be God's will?

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I can provide many evidences that demonstrate that God exists. I have in the past, but it doesn't matter to you

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You can’t and you haven’t, and there is no evidence nor “evidences”. Your own scripture says blessed are the ones that believe without seeing (having evidence). That’s what faith is. You’ll undoubtedly respond that faith is trust in the deity, and maybe that’s part of it, but it is trust in the deity for which no evidence exists and in which it cannot be tested or demonstrated that the deity is real or exists because of a lack of evidence in an allegedly spaceless, timeless, causeless being.

Arguments such as “the universe had a beginning, therefore it had a creator, and that creator is the one uncreated deity” is full of presuppositions and special pleasing fallacies, and isn’t even an argument for the Christian deities, so let’s be mature and acknowledge that and don’t try to use such stupid arguments, FooLaneCraig.

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What I keep pointing out to you is that I can have thousands of pieces of evidence that persuade many people that God exists, but because you aren't persuaded, you claim that there is no evidence.

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There’s a difference between assertions and claims used to convince and reinforce gullible peoples’ beliefs (apologetics) with scientific evidence. You don’t know the difference.

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You will deny the evidence presented and then claim that it isn't evidence at all.

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I will deny your baseless assertions and arguments and yes I will claim it isn’t evidence. Thanks for using evidence in its singular form like a normal English-speaking human.

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Go read Exodus 20. The 10 commandments are the objective standard.

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You believe in many gods now, to not put any of them before Yahweh’s face in the temple? The Sabbath is objectively Saturday. You keep it holy and don’t turn on a light switch or cook on Saturday? These are the same group of laws which Christians overwhelmingly reject. And especially you Calvinist nuts who reject works of the law as a means to grace. “Works of the law cannot save you, only through faith alone in Jesus, but let’s require everyone to comply with those 10 laws.”

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You don't even understand the concept of objectivity vs. subjectivity

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Your projection has gotten stale. Try something else.

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Murder is objectively sinful and wrong. That's the objective standard. What is considered murder is dependent on circumstances.

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Excellent, you proved yourself retarded.

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Slaves taken from foreign countries could be permanent servants, but they still had to be treated as human beings, and they could not have been stolen at any point, which eliminates the trans-atlantic slave trade.

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But as long as they murder all the adult males of a city, then taking the virgin girls as slaves isn’t stealing them, amirite?


Oh, and as long as Yahweh gets to eat some of those virgins as in Numbers 31.

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The resurrection of Jesus, for one.

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If a story in a mythical ancient work is evidence for someone being resurrected, then logically you must also believe Krishna and Asclepius and others also raised people from the dead. If you gullibly just believe ancient myths you’d also have to just believe Mohammed flew up to heaven on a flying donkey.

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The transcendental argument for another. That argument is philosophical evidence, as it establishes that the biblical God must exist due to the impossibility of the contrary based on the claims of all other deities and religions.

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Apologetic arguments without any bases are not evidence. They are arguments meant to reinforce the beliefs of people like you who are already duped.

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Only the God of the trinitarian God of the Bible provides the basis for intelligibility of the universe, including for logic, math, scientific inference, beauty, and morality, among other things.

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Adherents of every religion ever have made that argument but inserted their own creator deity where you have the god of the Christian Bible.

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You promote baby torture.

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I do not.

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You’re already on the record as you have stated you believe babies deserve to be eternally tortured.

Squirrelmeister was sent by God to test the faith of those that would entertain his desires.

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If you think otherwise, phuck you!

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I suppose you can tell that to the man upstairs when it's your turn.

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You can’t and you haven’t, and there is no evidence nor “evidences”. Your own scripture says blessed are the ones that believe without seeing (having evidence). That’s what faith is. You’ll undoubtedly respond that faith is trust in the deity, and maybe that’s part of it, but it is trust in the deity for which no evidence exists and in which it cannot be tested or demonstrated that the deity is real or exists because of a lack of evidence in an allegedly spaceless, timeless, causeless being.

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I'm not surprised that you don't understand what it means that those are blessed who believe and do not see, but that doesn't mean there is no evidence whatsoever. The Spirit's testimony to the believer is evidence. The Bible, itself, is evidence. You can't say that not seeing means there is no evidence.

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Arguments such as “the universe had a beginning, therefore it had a creator, and that creator is the one uncreated deity” is full of presuppositions and special pleasing fallacies, and isn’t even an argument for the Christian deities, so let’s be mature and acknowledge that and don’t try to use such stupid arguments, FooLaneCraig.

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You aren't mature, and you certainly aren't an intellectual. I've witnessed you butcher basic concepts regarding logic and philosophy, so it's not surprising that you reject those arguments as any evidence for the existence of the biblical God.

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There’s a difference between assertions and claims used to convince and reinforce gullible peoples’ beliefs (apologetics) with scientific evidence. You don’t know the difference.

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Ah, so now you are moving the goalpost to "scientific evidence". Gotcha.

One scientific evidence is the beginning of the universe. It is understood that the universe had a beginning, which points to God. Further philosophical evidence can narrow that down to the Christian God.

One more is the complex information found in DNA. DNA information works just like information of any kind, which implies a personal encoder/designer.

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I will deny your baseless assertions and arguments and yes I will claim it isn’t evidence.

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You're in denial because you are ignorant and blind.

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You believe in many gods now, to not put any of them before Yahweh’s face in the temple? The Sabbath is objectively Saturday. You keep it holy and don’t turn on a light switch or cook on Saturday? These are the same group of laws which Christians overwhelmingly reject. And especially you Calvinist nuts who reject works of the law as a means to grace. “Works of the law cannot save you, only through faith alone in Jesus, but let’s require everyone to comply with those 10 laws.”

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There is only one God. The Sabbath changed with the resurrection; Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and He has the right to change the day of worship and rest for His people. Yes, I use light switches, because the Bible teaches works of mercy and necessity are allowed on the Lord's Day, regardless of what other professing Christians believe. Yes, I reject the works of the law as a means of grace: the works of the law are works of the law, not grace.

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Your projection has gotten stale. Try something else.

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It's not projection. It's based on your actual responses.

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Excellent, you proved yourself retarded.

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I did not. Your lack of reading comprehension is embarrassing.

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But as long as they murder all the adult males of a city, then taking the virgin girls as slaves isn’t stealing them, amirite?

Oh, and as long as Yahweh gets to eat some of those virgins as in Numbers 31.

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It's not murder (you need to learn what that word means, apparently). It's also not stealing to make them wives.

And no, God did not eat anyone.

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If a story in a mythical ancient work is evidence for someone being resurrected, then logically you must also believe Krishna and Asclepius and others also raised people from the dead. If you gullibly just believe ancient myths you’d also have to just believe Mohammed flew up to heaven on a flying donkey.

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No, I don't need to believe Krishna and Asclepius. If the telling of a story was enough evidence, you'd be right, but that's not what I'm claiming. You know that, but your blindness just keeps getting in the way.

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Apologetic arguments without any bases are not evidence. They are arguments meant to reinforce the beliefs of people like you who are already duped.

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Here is that ignorance of philosophy that I was talking about

You really are embarrassing yourself and you are not someone to take seriously. It's a shame that anyone might be fooled into thinking you have anything of substance to offer here.

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Adherents of every religion ever have made that argument but inserted their own creator deity where you have the god of the Christian Bible.

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No, they haven't and can't. They don't withstand any internal critiques. Christianity can and does.

Other religions and deities do not make the same claims that the God of the Bible does. That would matter to someone who understood philosophy, though. It's a shame you are deficient here. Maybe we could have an actual discussion.

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You’re already on the record as you have stated you believe babies deserve to be eternally tortured.

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I have said that all human beings deserve to go to Hell for their sin, both due to original sin and actual sin committed, and age does not matter for that determination. I have not claimed that torturing babies is OK, though, because the way you are framing that statement would mislead people into thinking that I support the arbitrary and sinful actions of humans torturing babies for any reason. God can destroy His creation as He sees fit, but your deceptive wording would have others thinking I support humans torturing babies. I don't.

God is holy, perfect; but He's also merciful. I believe in Christa Pike's case He's asking for repentance and maybe has a plan for her life and testimony we don't know yet.

They had an electric chair. This iteration used a religious exemption as a Buddhist.

God would have used a firing squad or hanging, Very cheap and 100% effective. No drugs.

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"Man upstairs"? What, you cannot bring yourself to say:
God
Lord and Savior
Jesus Christ
Heavenly Father ???

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Fair enough. Allah. Feel better?

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Perhaps it is a sign from God that He is against The Death Penalty?

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Do you contend that God changes His mind? If so, that would go against the teaching on the immutability of God.

Genesis 9:6 grounds the death penalty (before the Mosaic administration of the law) in God's nature and man being made in His image. For Him to then turn around and say that, as a broad principle, the death penalty is immoral, would seem to be God going against Himself.

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What kind of apostasy is this? Have you heard of free will, and sin?

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God's sovereignty over all His creation is a biblical concept, not apostasy.

God allows evil to exist for a greater good to be accomplished. We see that exemplified in the story of Joseph, who was sold into slavery by his jealous brothers. Joseph recognizes that while his brothers did perform evil of their own desire, and it was truly evil, that God has sovereignly ordained it and planned it for good (Genesis 50:20).

God is sovereign over all things, including people. If He weren't, He wouldn't be God, and we couldn't trust that "all things work together for good" (Rom. 8:28).