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re: Harvard President Claudine Gay resigns

Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:23 pm to
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I just heard someone on TV say it's not clear if she plagiarized and that she likely just "misrepresented her citations" instead.


Harvard officially went with that narrative as long as they could...basically they said that (paraphrased) the degree of plagiarism she engaged in was acceptable at the time she engaged in it, but now it's a lot easier to check, so that degree of plagiarism is no longer tolerated.

Obviously how hard or easy it is to catch someone has nothing to do with whether it's ethically acceptable behavior, but they knew most people wouldn't pay attention well enough to catch it.

What changed that was the student who pointed out that if any student had done it they would have been expelled. That and the never-ending crop of new allegations.
Posted by Chief One Word
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:25 pm to
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Harvard is racist

That also condones cheating and scamming.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:26 pm to
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The writer also went into detail how most faculty members not only defended what the president did but applauded her blatant plagiarism, academic fraud, and dishonesty. It also mentioned how the president committed her plagiarism repeatedly over many years in many writings, a pattern that would have resulted in the harshest penalty from the honor council: expulsion.


So this means that Gay will be the first of many justified resignations? Or should the students be held to standards that their hypocritical and corrupt faculty teachers are not.
Posted by Houag80
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:26 pm to
He looks to be pegged on a regular basis.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:29 pm to
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good she is a morally corrupt pos
Indeed!
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Gay complained: 'It has been ... frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus.'
That's quite a mouthful coming from a POS who couldn't even say if calling for genocide of Jews qualified as "bullying or harassment."
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 3:31 pm to
To prove the utter academic bankruptcy of its institution, Harvard will retain her as a professor.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:10 pm to
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with proof of his or her plagiarism.
This is no more about plagiarism than Hunter's Burisma appointment was about expertise.
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Ackman wrote 'Et tu Sally?' on X following the news.

The comment appears to be alluding to the president of MIT, Sally Kornblut, the only one of the three to not have yet stepped down.
This is about prominent US universities allowing, and even encouraging, fulminant anti-semitism. Anti-semitism, thus far, is the apical result of anti-free speech movements infesting campuses. Major donors finally got their chains yanked.
Posted by TigerCoon
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:39 pm to
Stefanik is 2 for 3, with all eyes on Sally Kombluth now.

I'm warming up to Elise a little bit.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:45 pm to
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Stefanik is 2 for 3, with all eyes on Sally Kombluth now.

I'm warming up to Elise a little bit.
As a Harvard grad, Stefanik seems to be focusing on Harvard, specifically the board.

Kombluth's problem is Ackman and like-minded power-players. For academics, this will eventually prove to be a BudLight moment, IMO.
This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 4:48 pm to
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This is no more about plagiarism than Hunter's Burisma appointment was about expertise.


Well, yes and no.

It's more like getting Al Capone for tax evasion. Plagiarism was the charge she could be convicted on.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:25 pm to
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Plagiarism was the charge she could be convicted on.
They didn't get the UPenn woman with plagiarism, and they won't get MIT Sally with it.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Harvard President Claudine Gay resigns


Smaart of her to wait until after the new year and get that extra 6 wks of vacation rolled over! Thats a baw move
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:06 pm to
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This is about prominent US universities allowing, and even encouraging, fulminant anti-semitism. Anti-semitism, thus far, is the apical result of anti-free speech movements infesting campuses. Major donors finally got their chains yanked.


But the anti-white stuff will still be encouraged.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:30 pm to
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Gay complained: 'It has been ... frightening to be subjected to personal attacks and threats fueled by racial animus.' That's quite a mouthful coming from a POS who couldn't even say if calling for genocide of Jews qualified as "bullying or harassment."


“Depends on the context” amirite?
Posted by Dingbag
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 10:45 pm to
The fact that it took her this long shows why kissing people’s asses because they’re “oppressed” has consequences. The extreme arrogance of this woman not realizing how lucky she was that there were likely dozens of applicants more qualified that applied for the job.

I read she published what, 11 papers? Dude, I knew TA’s who had more than that while they were working on their doctorate.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 11:14 pm to
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Billionaire Bill Ackman has applauded the resignation of Harvard President Claudine Gay and asked if MIT president Sally Kornbluth will follow suit
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