- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: H1N1 vs. Coronavirus - Why are they not comparable?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:12 am to Powerman
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:12 am to Powerman
quote:to a certain extent, sure. but that's not the issue as i have explained numerous times now
You don't think that's a result of the response?
quote:more widespread, sure. "much more?" fear mongering and hysteria
Had we not taken the measures that we have it's a certainty that it would be much more widespread
0
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:12 am to BugAC
quote:
H1N1 (Source CDC) Worldwide: 700 million to 1.4 billion infected, 171,000-575,000 deaths US: 60.8 million cases, 12,469 deaths Coronavirus (reported) Worldwide: 490,144 infected, 22,154 deaths US: 68,211 infected, 1,027 deaths
I love statistics. They have no emotion. No political lean. No agenda. They just tell the facts.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:14 am to bfniii
quote:
in a few weeks, there won't be an economy left to support hospitals
Funding has been released to make sure that hospitals are supported
quote:
and stupid gov's like jbe are suggesting we double down. close down the state because nola is seeing some 19 cases. it's idiotic
There are over 1800 confirmed cases in LA and the situation in NOLA is worsening quickly
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:15 am to Powerman
quote:
There are over 1800 confirmed cases in LA and the situation in NOLA is worsening quickly
Does that necessitate a statewide lockdown?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:17 am to Powerman
quote:
He used international for both comparisons so it was a fair comparison
No it isn't
quote:
End Of Day Summary for Monday, September 28, 2009
Official US Total:
(According to CDC) 44555 cases, 772 deaths
So how in the world do we get to
4,000 deaths by November? So 3,000 more deaths occurred in less than 2 months? WTF?
quote:
On November 12, 2009, the CDC reported an estimated 22 million Americans had been infected with 2009 A H1N1 and 4,000 Americans have died.
Somebody is WAY off in their numbers.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:18 am to BugAC
quote:
Does that necessitate a statewide lockdown?
Had the state been smart and not hosted Mardi Gras and blocked off travel to and from NOLA then a state wide lock down would probably not be necessary. As it stands now it is probably necessary to prevent things from spiraling out of control.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:21 am to RD Dawg
quote:
4,000 deaths by November? So 3,000 more deaths occurred in less than 2 months? WTF?
Viral outbreaks are exponential in nature
Repeat the above sentence 500 fricking times in your head if you have to until you get it
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:24 am to Powerman
quote:ugh. now we're going down this road.
That was a belief early on that has not been verified unfortunately
"Warmer temperatures and higher humidity could help to slow spread of the virus"
live science
"Two groups of researchers have concluded that the places where coronavirus infection has mostly taken hold so far -- such as Wuhan in central China, Milan and Seattle -- share similarly mild humidity and temperatures; one paper put the range from about 5 to 11 degrees Celsius (41 to 52 degrees Fahrenheit) in winter. Other researchers who examined outbreaks in 100 Chinese cities found that high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of the COVID-19 virus."
bloomberg
one of the factors of summer is the longer days which leads to more exposure to sunlight for viruses living on surfaces. this will most assuredly slow the virus in the coming weeks.
"it has to do with the length of the day and the exposure to sunlight, which inactivates the virus through UV light," Fair, who is an MSNBC science contributor, said during an appearance on the network. "We expect a dip in infections as we would see with the cold and flu in the spring and summer months."
it's just one more factor out of many
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:24 am to Powerman
quote:
Had the state been smart and not hosted Mardi Gras and blocked off travel to and from NOLA then a state wide lock down would probably not be necessary. As it stands now it is probably necessary to prevent things from spiraling out of control.
For how long? We will essentially layoff the Louisiana workforce over a mild virus? This is insane.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:25 am to BugAC
I think It’s hard to compare them at this point because the reAction was so different
Who know what The Coronavirus body count would be if we were not locked Down like this and who know what the H1N1 count would be if we did lock down then.
Those stats for H1N1 are over a pretty large period of time and Covid is keeping up with them a month in.
Who know what The Coronavirus body count would be if we were not locked Down like this and who know what the H1N1 count would be if we did lock down then.
Those stats for H1N1 are over a pretty large period of time and Covid is keeping up with them a month in.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:27 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Those stats for H1N1 are over a pretty large period of time and Covid is keeping up with them a month in.
Not really. Asymptomatic people that is the great "fear" right now, aren't reported. Those that had it and recoverd, and didn't know they had it, are not reported. Once this is over, you'll likely see a large # of people estimated to be infected (like with H1N1) and a relatively low mortality rate.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:27 am to Yak
quote:from an epidemiological standpoint, i don't necessarily disagree. from a response standpoint, they absolutely are. an outbreak is an outbreak. you do the same thing - stop it. that requires looking at the big picture which i have been doing. so far, this virus is nothing compared to other historical outbreaks worldwide. it's just not even in the same universe right now. and social measures are only a small part of the equation because china assho and because of the asymptomatic nature of the virus. the thing was circulating well in advance of responses and hasn't killed off half the world's population
This was my entire point of my post...IT'S NOT COMPARABLE
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:29 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Who know what The Coronavirus body count would be if we were not locked Down like this and who know what the H1N1 count would be if we did lock down then.
Those stats for H1N1 are over a pretty large period of time and Covid is keeping up with them a month in.
Correct
There is no way of knowing what would happen in alternate realities
The response to covid has been severe and it's still problematic
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:29 am to Powerman
quote:ok. you can't be helped if you're going to keep playing games. you just took out the largest variable in regards to the morbidity you are clinging to
The asymptomatic nature aside
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:31 am to Powerman
quote:as long as resources are available to do so. there is a point at which there won't be any resources and there is a point of no return
Funding has been released to make sure that hospitals are supported
quote:that still doesn't mean you shut the ENTIRE state down. that's not sensible
the situation in NOLA is worsening quickly
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:32 am to Powerman
quote:fear. panic. hysteria. scare tactics.
As it stands now it is probably necessary to prevent things from spiraling out of control.
not fact.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:32 am to bfniii
quote:
as long as resources are available to do so. there is a point at which there won't be any resources and there is a point of no return
Uh yeah. That's why everything is shut down right now...
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:37 am to bfniii
quote:
fear. panic. hysteria. scare tactics.
not fact.
So do you suggest that Louisiana just go back to life as normal? To what extent?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 12:09 pm to BugAC
I actually meant raw number of deaths.
I agree mortality rate is probably lower than currently reported, but as far as total deaths it is keeping pace after a month and we are doing literally everything we can to slow it down.
I agree mortality rate is probably lower than currently reported, but as far as total deaths it is keeping pace after a month and we are doing literally everything we can to slow it down.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 12:15 pm to BugAC
I'd like to know if we were better prepared with the swine flu virus.
Would replenishing our stock after it like they didn't do have eased this?
Buying the ventilators that were suggested that NYC didn't do have mitigated this?
Is this why the swine flu was not as hyped up (minus social media)
Would replenishing our stock after it like they didn't do have eased this?
Buying the ventilators that were suggested that NYC didn't do have mitigated this?
Is this why the swine flu was not as hyped up (minus social media)
Page 9 of 10
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News