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Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:25 pm to EA6B
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Once again, how is the actor off the street that never touched a gun supposed to know the first rule of gun safety? Common sense says if I am hired to do a job that involves hazardous equipment that I know nothing about I trust the trained professional that tells me it is safe to use.
Good lord. I can’t believe you are still holding on to this.
You’re telling me that even an uninformed newb can’t pick the one live bullet out of this picture?
As for your example, let’s put it a different way. If someone you had just met as another employee on a temporary job handed you a gun and told you it was ready to aim at your dearest loved one and pull the trigger, do you still just take their word for it and do it?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:22 pm to Ag Zwin
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I’ve gone out of my way to not blame him personally
He’s not responsible for the act itself. That’s on the people who are the experts that should not have put an unchecked gun in an actor’s hands. As a producer on the film, he is 100% responsible for the conditions that led to someone being shot and killed, and I hope he suffers the consequences for it. Sadly, though, that doesn’t usually happen.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:24 pm to Ag Zwin
Guns on movie sets: keep them away from Alec, he shoots to kill not to maim.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:25 pm to Ag Zwin
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They say things like they are not trained or that the additional handling creates an opportunity for loss of control.
If they can’t be trained on safe weapons handling then they don’t need to be handling a weapon! And if it “creates an opportunity for loss of control” then why the hell does the military insist on it when handing off a weapon?
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:27 pm to Ag Zwin
If they are not trained, and do not know proper firearm handling safety, they do not have any business with a firearm of any type (live or prop) in their hands.
Period.
Once you pick up a weapon of any type, what happens with that weapon while in your possession is your responsibility.
Period.
Period.
Once you pick up a weapon of any type, what happens with that weapon while in your possession is your responsibility.
Period.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:30 pm to AndyCBR
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it doesn’t make any sense to have live ammo anywhere near a set.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:33 pm to teke184
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No one has said whether it was a live round, a blank, or something else. But it clearly fired as Baldwin was drawing the gun so there was a primer and at least some object in the barrel.
Easiest assumption is that it was an actual live round rather than a blank because the blank would need something other than wadding to shoot out in order to kill someone at the likely distance he was firing from.
Per the article I read the man that was wounded was standing behind the cinematographer. That tells me it was a live round and not a blank.
Posted on 10/26/21 at 10:40 pm to EA6B
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How is a actor with no prior knowledge or experience with firearms that was hired to play a cowboy supposed to know this. Everyone is not from the South and received a .22 rifle for their 6th birthday.
I am assuming you have military experience based upon your screen name. That being said how hard would it be to #1 higher an experienced armorer that would ensure safe handling of weapons? And #2 have some very basic gun safety classes for these supposedly intelligent highly paid people. The answer is…..very very easy. However it is rather apparent neither occurred!
Posted on 10/27/21 at 5:34 am to Rocky4LSU
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Also magazine is the correct term for the bullet holder in a semi-auto weapon.
If we're doing this.....

Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:57 am to Ag Zwin
Him not checking the gun isn't the issue. No actor is going to check that or should be required to check that
The problem is hiring some liberal freak who is terrified of guns and doesn't know the first thing about them to be in charge of his gun
These people don't have the first clue about guns
The problem is hiring some liberal freak who is terrified of guns and doesn't know the first thing about them to be in charge of his gun
These people don't have the first clue about guns
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:59 am to Pelican fan99
Charge the whole crew. Let the lawyers sort it out.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:12 am to Ag Zwin
This whole thing is stupid. It doesn't matter where a gun is Any one using it never points it at a person and always checks if it's loaded.
If liberals can't figure that out PSA.. Don't use real guns and don't call real guns "prop" guns.
Idiots.
If liberals can't figure that out PSA.. Don't use real guns and don't call real guns "prop" guns.
Idiots.
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:37 am to Ag Zwin
If actors are too stupid to detect a loaded firearm, why should we listen to them when the rant about politics (or anythign else)?
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