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Gun Violence re: From meme thread - Spoiler, it’s not the guns fault
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:35 pm
I was curious about this one:
So I looked it up and came across a sub stack that fact checked it and came up with some similar and other interesting results - LINK
Conclusion…culture.
So I looked it up and came across a sub stack that fact checked it and came up with some similar and other interesting results - LINK
quote:
The US white murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank High Income nations. The US Latino murder rate is comparable to that of the World Bank Lower Middle Income Nations. The US black murder rate is double the World Bank Lower Income nations and also more than double Africa.
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If US black and Latino murder rates were the same as US white murder rates, then the United States would have the same murder rate as our economic peer nations even with 400 million guns in circulation
Whites own more guns per capita than black folks or Latinos and there’s an inverse correlation between ownership and murder across those demographics, so “it’s the guns” is not explanatory for the murder rate differential in these populations
The racist hot-take of “it’s genetic” is also not explanatory, because US black Americans more than double the sub-Saharan Africa murder rate, and Latin America south of the border is almost six times more murderous than the Latinos here.
Conclusion…culture.
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:39 pm to Laugh More
Overwhelming culture. Enriched AF.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:42 pm to Laugh More
I have well trained guns; they have never shot anyone but are ready to if needed to protect my family. People just need to train their guns better.
Guns don't kill people, people do. Same con be said of knives, forks, cars, trucks, sticks, fists, rocks.
Guns don't kill people, people do. Same con be said of knives, forks, cars, trucks, sticks, fists, rocks.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:46 pm to UFMatt
What about red SUVs?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:46 pm to Laugh More
65%+ of blacks people grow up in a single family household.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:47 pm to Laugh More
Import the 3rd world…
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:49 pm to Robin Masters
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Import the 3rd world…
I understand your point, but it seems the culture we have here causing this crap is home grown.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 1:59 pm to Laugh More
Yeah that is all homegrown crap. Some 3rd worlders might be an upgrade.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:10 pm to Laugh More
Hence why I always say we don't have a gun problem in the US...
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:12 pm to Laugh More
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The racist hot-take of “it’s genetic” is also not explanatory, because US black Americans more than double the sub-Saharan Africa murder rate,
Whats the African ownership rate of guns? I’ll bet its nowhere near as high as Black America, because theres no Second Amendment in Africa.
Bottom line, if there were more guns in African hands, would their murder rates be higher? Im betting yes.
Its frowned upon to notice in academic circles, but culture has genetic influences too. There’s abundant evidence of this. Witness the numerous attempts to “civilize” third world peoples over the years, all failures. As we found out in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, inside every asian, there isnt an American waiting to come out. Culture doesn’t exist in a void.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:12 pm to Laugh More
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I understand your point, but it seems the culture we have here causing this crap is home grown.
Then explain why wyt and Asian Americans aren't capping each other like it's a sport.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:14 pm to Laugh More
quote:lyndon Baines Johnson
Conclusion
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:23 pm to PuertoRicanBlaze
Thug and violence are pivotal pieces of a culture that a large percentage of blacks and Latinos subscribe to unfortunately.
There are plenty of whites and Asians that fit that mold too, but the culture I was referring to was explicitly geared towards the minorities mentioned.
There are plenty of whites and Asians that fit that mold too, but the culture I was referring to was explicitly geared towards the minorities mentioned.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:30 pm to Laugh More
No doubt about no.1, Chicago, Nola, NY, SF, and all other liberal infested shitholes are worst than a warzone in Gaza, but how is Somalia, Syria, Ukraine/Russia, and other extremely violent areas of the world not represented on here?
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:37 pm to Laugh More
So from the article's statistics in regards to whites owning more guns than blacks and even latinos...
Are they taking into account illegally owned (stolen) guns? Or are they basing it off of legal purchase records (Legal PURCHASES. The records are not legal!)
I'm not arguing that the statistics would change that whites outnumber blacks or Latinos. I'm just saying the margins between the three would be different.
I also really want to know if Asians and native Americans are also lumped into that statistic for whites.
Are they taking into account illegally owned (stolen) guns? Or are they basing it off of legal purchase records (Legal PURCHASES. The records are not legal!)
I'm not arguing that the statistics would change that whites outnumber blacks or Latinos. I'm just saying the margins between the three would be different.
I also really want to know if Asians and native Americans are also lumped into that statistic for whites.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:42 pm to Laugh More
Keep marginalizing black people and keep wondering why they never vote conservative. Unless there is an understanding and acceptance that there are systemic issues at hand which leads to generational poverty among blacks (me included), we will always wonder why the hell this keeps happening. Conservatives are best positioned to help the black people because they won’t pander for the vote bank and actually can help them organically but you keep treating them as sub-human, this is going to continue.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:49 pm to Laugh More
Nah man, blacks were discriminated against 50 years ago and that's why their grandchildren don't give a shite about school, have babies they can't afford, and murder each other 10x as often as white people.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:58 pm to Laugh More
This doesn't seem like a very strong analysis. Is this peer-reviewed research?
For a start, it just states gun ownership by race and then goes onto argue that homicide rates couldn't possibly be because of gun ownership. That's not a robust analysis - it could be the case that people committing homicides have access to more guns regardless of race.
And it then states that US white homicide rates are not particularly high compared with their peers either which is also massively misleading. Because a homicide rate of 2.6 per 100,000 is still pretty high compared with most Western nations.
Take England for example which is multiracial. If you compare like-for-like, their homicide rate among whites is going to be much lower than the general population as well. The figures I could find suggest that the homicide rate among whites in England and Wales is 0.9 per 100,000.
So comparing English whites with American whites, American whites have a homicide rate 3x higher than English whites.
For a start, it just states gun ownership by race and then goes onto argue that homicide rates couldn't possibly be because of gun ownership. That's not a robust analysis - it could be the case that people committing homicides have access to more guns regardless of race.
And it then states that US white homicide rates are not particularly high compared with their peers either which is also massively misleading. Because a homicide rate of 2.6 per 100,000 is still pretty high compared with most Western nations.
Take England for example which is multiracial. If you compare like-for-like, their homicide rate among whites is going to be much lower than the general population as well. The figures I could find suggest that the homicide rate among whites in England and Wales is 0.9 per 100,000.
So comparing English whites with American whites, American whites have a homicide rate 3x higher than English whites.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 2:59 pm to geauxtigahs87
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and murder each other 10x as often as white people.
Black people shoot when they get disrespected. Gotta take care yo bidness.
Posted on 8/12/24 at 3:05 pm to Laugh More
But but but muh wipipo are buying the drugs that are funding the thug drug gun culture amongst blkpipo in this country and latino Hispanic cartels south of our border.
So, you see, it all comes back to greedy evil wipipo.
So, you see, it all comes back to greedy evil wipipo.
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