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re: Grok will give us the ability to summarize 1500 pages in a matter of minutes

Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:08 pm to
I don't know if it's possible at this exact moment, but having an AI that understands that a second doucment has been referred to is not hard. If the doucment is part of the public record, it can review the relevant parts and report back. Sometimes it's in the prompting of the query that gets you to these deeper levels. But if you think AI can't be programmed to do a deep dive - the you need to think again.

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It's fantasy because these statutes say things like "in accordance with the Save America's Forests Act, Title 2, Section 23, Paragraphs IIIa and IIID, and subject to other limitations by Congress or the US Forest Service, a sum of $55B will be allocated over ten years for species preservation efforts for native trees in the Great Basin Exclusion Zone."

Now tell me how that gets summarized without knowing what's in the Save America's Forests Act, the other things Congress may or may not have put out there, and issuances from the US Forest Service, along with such things as, what species are included here, where is the Great Basin Exclusion Zone. Also, why is species preservation important? Is that even in the bill? If it's not, that's additional digging you have to do in order to understand what's going on here.

No program is going to summarize this. When they put a 1500 page bill on the floor, you will have to read 10,000x that many pages to properly understand it and just like with ObamaCare, you have to pass it to find out what's in it, because agencies will be writing regulations after the passage (hopefully not any longer though). Can the machines read the pages? Yes, but there is a limit to how condensed information can get. They can't summarize that one paragraph above without adding a thousand more paragraphs to it for context. This is why single subject bills are important and why it's important for these committees to operate with transparency and to pass their portions of the budget in a proper way - so that things are digestible and amenable for debate and transparency.

What this will do, however, is highlight more of the games being played and how it's not members of Congress or their staffs that write these bills. It's lobbyists and special interest (like think tanks, which helps to explain the revolving door) groups that have spreadsheets and tables, graphs, charts, and matrices, showing them what funds can be reprogrammed where, where powers from a former Act reach down to, etc - so they deliberately craft these things so they are impossible to understand. This is part of how the Deep State operates without transparency. No one actually knows what in the hell is going on.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29474 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
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Now tell me how that gets summarized without knowing what's in the Save America's Forests Act, the other things Congress may or may not have put out there, and issuances from the US Forest Service, along with such things as, what species are included here, where is the Great Basin Exclusion Zone. Also, why is species preservation important? Is that even in the bill? If it's not, that's additional digging you have to do in order to understand what's going on here.


You don't think the AI can handle this? You been living under a rock?

Also Community Notes can help crowd source what's true and what isn't.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7284 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 12:16 pm to
The problem with AI is just like the media if it gets led in the wrong direction, it will provide misinformation and people will believe it cause it’s AI and that’s scary if/when it gets in the wrong hands.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18896 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 2:39 pm to
I think you just answered the question, why doesnt the bill say what it means, why 3 references to 4 different sources and two different paragraphs????

Because lawyers make it that way so you can pay 500 bucks an hour for someone to make it 1500 pages.

A quantum shift is needed.

The largest corporation in the world and how it will work was distilled into a few pages......its called the Constitution of the United States.

Perhaps we need to go back to that, ya think?????? You see those fellas had day jobs and didnt try to make a career and fortune off of running the govt.
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