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re: Graham - Trump to talk to Speaker about plan to turn Ukraine aid into a no interest loan

Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:19 am to
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4392 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:19 am to
Don’t like or agree with it just like I didn’t agree with how the pandemic was handled.

That said, the people chose Trump as the GOP nominee and he still presents a much better alternative overall to the present clown show occupying the WH and laying waste to the foundations of the Republic.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11144 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:27 am to
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Makes all you Pro Putin posters the past 2 years look real stupid now. Many of yall just don’t understand the reality of the situation and life outside the United States.

Even when the war ends, this aid ain’t ending anytime soon. Especially now that Russia is going to retain 20% of the Ukrainian territory that they currently occupy. We’re gonna have to beef up Ukraines military now. Doesn’t matter if it’s Biden or Trump in there. I do trust Trump to handle this more appropriately though and with a winning strategy though.

But it doesn’t matter if you think we should be the worlds police or not, because we’re going to always be the worlds police until the country collapses, or humanity destroys itself. There’s no turning back now. Turning back would be the most reckless decision we could make.


Every bit of this is dumb.

Most people on the opposite side of this from you have spent more time overseas and in far more countries than you'll ever go to. You know nothing about life outside the US.

Every time you talk about this stuff you remind me of some Private that just left Ft. Huachuca and thinks that because he's got high side access that he understands the world.

You understand nothing and you've been wrong about everything.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79212 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:55 am to
You know how it goes.

If he puts his finger on the scale on this his most hardcore supporters on here will be waving Ukraine flags in no time
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1826 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:17 am to
trump better realize that the movement is not about trump. he can lose it.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4322 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:34 am to
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Again, stopping the funding to Ukraine is my first option, but thats not going to happen. Both Repubs and Democrats continue to sign off on this shite every time it comes up


Trump has quite a lot of power within the party. He could use his position to threaten Republicans who keep signing off on this money. He could stand up for his supporters who are opposed to giving Ukraine billions. Even if he fails, he wins by proving himself to be a champion of the "America First" movement.

Instead he's helping give them cover.

quote:

At least TRY and get something back for it. Dont just come out and say HEY FREE MONEY


This would be free money. Don't lie to yourself here. There's not a single person who actually believes we'll ever see this money again.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20768 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:39 am to
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he can lose it.


Haha. The movement is whatever Trump says it will be.
This post was edited on 3/11/24 at 11:40 am
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:51 am to
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What a surprise! Republicans nominate an 80 year old geriatric billionaire New York democrat who added nearly 8 trillion dollars to the debt in his first term, only to see him doing democrat things.

What did the fools expect? Idiots. We had one more shot to save this country.for our kids and grandchildren, and this is the choice we made?


They don't care. Give it three months and MAGA will be screaming "Slava Ukraine" or something.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22941 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:51 am to
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This would be free money. Don't lie to yourself here. There's not a single person who actually believes we'll ever see this money again.


The fix has to start somewhere unless you have a better option.

Any administration, I dont want to limit it to Trump, can say this is a "loan". if they dont pay it back, they get flagged....like in the real world. If there's any chance of that lessening the chance they get a future "loan" then count me in.

So call it what you want.
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
397 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 12:38 pm to
EO 13848…. Anyone interfering in elections gets assets seized. I think this put it as asset rather than a vanished giveaway…
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8903 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
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President Trump is trying to do two things here. Help an ally but tell the American people "pay us back if you can".


They're NOT an ally Mrs. Graham
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
2109 posts
Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:48 pm to
This might be one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4322 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Is this supposed to be a “got ya” OP?



It was never a "got ya". It was a warning of what was coming. Trump could have come out strongly against more funding for this war, instead he helped it through congress.

Now you're all mad at everyone except Trump. Why is that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:08 pm to
A "forgivable loan" is so much better than a gift.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47879 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:14 pm to
lol nothing like a Sunday Ronbot orgy. You people are clowns.
Posted by JoeHackett
Member since Aug 2016
4322 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:27 pm to
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lol nothing like a Sunday Ronbot orgy. You people are clowns.



By pointing out that the Ukraine funding was orchestrated, in part, by Trump himself, I'm a clown?

Or maybe you're in favor of the Ukraine money.

My TDS makes me opposed to "loaning" billions to fund an unwinnable war, in a country I don't really care about. Maybe I'll be cured one day and come around to the MAGA position and start waving my Ukrainian flag.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58012 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:44 pm to
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Graham - Trump to talk to Speaker about plan to turn Ukraine aid into a no interest loan



Is a horrible idea. It’s like expecting illegal immigrants to show up at a future court date.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260562 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:46 pm to
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By pointing out that the Ukraine funding was orchestrated, in part, by Trump himself, I'm a clown?



Reality is harsh for them.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48325 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Can't wait for Cult45's reaction.


What is the setup we have now with aid to the Ukraine?
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