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GOP responds to Democrat memo (Schiff BTFO)

Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:00 pm
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THE DEMOCRATS’ MEMO: CHARGE AND RESPONSE


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It's a point by point response in which the Democrat memo is exposed for being a fraud.

This post was edited on 2/24/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Bunyan


haha the melt and spin has already begun
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:04 pm to
Eat Schiff, shite
Posted by papasmurf1269
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Member since Apr 2005
20896 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:06 pm to
Don’t even care. You and the Democrats can both piss off
Posted by Bunyan
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20828 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

haha the melt and spin has already begun

dude the Dem memo is trash. Even you know it
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94516 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:06 pm to
I don't care about the he said she said. Release the FISA application so we can all see it and not filter the facts through shitty politicians.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17031 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:09 pm to
We'll never get to the bottom of this, I am afraid, without them releasing classified FISA applications AND classified NSA intercepts. The democrat memo had a ton of shite blacked out in relation to what Page was caught saying on the phone (and possibly to undercover CIA informants). If they reveal this info, it might blow some sources so I doubt they ever will.

While I believe Nunes is telling the truth, I also think Page is a shady character. I would love to see what the FBI had on him (and what Page said on the intercepts). Sadly, that is all redacted in the dem memo.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:11 pm to
This is nothing but "he said she said" political fodder at this point.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39477 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:13 pm to
Yo dog! We heard you like memos, so we wrote a memo to go with your memo.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40136 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Bunyan


haha the melt and spin has already begun


Not really. The dems memo will have very little effect because:

1. It is not a bombshell.

2. The timing is horrible. It will get lost in the AR-15 and the DACA that will happen on 3/6/2018.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

While I believe Nunes is telling the truth, I also think Page is a shady character. I would love to see what the FBI had on him (and what Page said on the intercepts). Sadly, that is all redacted in the dem memo.


At this point the issue is the issuance of the FISA warrant itself, now what information was garnered by the surveillance.

I suspect we could compile quite a dossier of shady dealings if we were able to secretly surveil DEM operatives.

IF there were serious espionage findings, then fine, let them prosecute Page - or any other operative to the full extent of the law relative to any harm they did to the security of the USA.

But the politicization of the FISA process for the purposes of disadvantaging a political opponent in the midst of a presidential election is a DIRECT THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

THAT is the bottom line here - DEMs are undermining our democracy by using the power of the US government to attack one candidate in an election for the advantage of the other candidate.

AND - worse still - once the election is over, and the attacked candidate - against all odds - actually wins the election, the lame duck governmental operatives then begin an attack on the DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT - with the objective of hamstringing his ability to govern effectively, providing grist for an IMPEACHMENT agenda, and potentially trapping a lot of associates in perjury traps, prosecution for unrelated offenses having nothing to do with the campaign, and destroying the confidence the public has in the new government - especially when aligned with a complicit media which broadcasts propaganda 24/7

This whole thing stinks to high heaven and I hope to see some high-placed people frog-marched into the vans to take them to prison.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:21 pm to
One thing we know for certain is the DNC/Hillary campaign colluded with Russia in order to get dirt on Trump and the Trump campaign.

The Dums memo substantiates that fact,
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

GOP responds to Democrat memo (Schiff BTFO)


Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:24 pm to
If they don't have anything to charge page with then those sources are irrelevant.

He has been labeled a Russian agent per the fisa application, yet he walks a free man who has never been charged with anything.

shite or get off the pot.
Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
6044 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:26 pm to
I think it's hilarious that the MSM went after Nixon for illegal wire taps but, support the DNC in essentially the same event with a far worse factor.. the phony dossier.

Where is our Woodward & Bernstein?
Posted by Kriegschwein
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/24/18 at 4:48 pm to
Best thing to do is wait for the Mueller and IG investigations to be complete.



Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6812 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

I also think Page is a shady character. I would love to see what the FBI had on him (and what Page said on the intercepts). Sadly, that is all redacted in the dem memo.



Agreed, Carter Page seems a little odd to me. But, "a little odd" & "shady character" =/= Russian agent/operative. By now, the FBI has surely had enough time and surveillance of Page to have charged him w/ a crime. The fact that he remains uncharged suggests to me he didn't commit a crime.
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 9:22 pm to
I’ve heard a theory that he’s a CIA mole.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 10:53 pm to
The Democrats should not even have responded to Nunes' Memo.

It was so poorly written and sourced that even Trump gave up touting it after a few days, after the response to it was so muted.

Now both sides will go back and forth for a few more days, until everyone gets tired of the noise.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 2/24/18 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

But the politicization of the FISA process for the purposes of disadvantaging a political opponent in the midst of a presidential election is a DIRECT THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.

THAT is the bottom line here - DEMs are undermining our democracy by using the power of the US government to attack one candidate in an election for the advantage of the other candidate.


You keep saying this like it's true.

The FBI got the warrant on October 21. They never told anyone they were investigating the Trump campaign. They announced they were reopening the Hillary investigation 9 days before the election, and they hadn't even seen the emails on Weiner's computer.

Give it up with the whining about how the FBI/Gov't were trying attack Trump so Hillary could win.

It's not even close to true.
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