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re: Good News: We’re Supporting Argentina’s Claim To The Falklands & Arming Them

Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10844 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:02 pm to
Honestly, given the current political conditions in England, Maggie would probably approve of this. Sad to see what leftists have done to Great Britain.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
2359 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:04 pm to
The US should take every single British and French territory on the globe. Including Canada.
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4231 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:04 pm to
F-16s don’t matter. The Brits couldn’t project a wet fart in the vicinity of the Falklands these days, much less have the public will and backbone for any military action. Argentina can take it at will.
Posted by Stonehenge
Wakulla Springs
Member since Dec 2014
2685 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:06 pm to
Even that comes from this White House is idiotic.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:06 pm to
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Britain, France, and Germany, the classic world powers, are thoroughly cuckolded to whichever top five power seeks the task. If Argentina made another play for the Falklands, Britain would be humiliated. Let's keep it real


Lol who said this? Again, Argentina's military is in an absolutely pitiful state. It's spending is exceedingly small for a nation of its size. It also has no real native defense industry.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139056 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:07 pm to
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Well, maybe Britain should have thought of that when they let their global fleet shrink to smaller than the size of the task force during the Falklands war. And, only 1/3 of the destroyers at least (2) are deployable.

Yep.

The UK Fleet (Falklands War)
29 Ships
2 Aircraft carriers
6 Destroyers
15 Frigates
6 Attack Submarines

The UK Fleet (Deployment Ready Now)
~15 Ships
1-2 Aircraft carriers
3 Destroyers
9 Frigates
1-2 Attack Submarines

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16189 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:10 pm to
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rgentina's military is in an absolutely pitiful state. It's spending is exceedingly small for a nation of its size

The UK couldn't get one of their two! seaworthy destroyers to the Med without a week of notice, and it didn't even get there.

quote:

HMS Dragon Faces Technical Issues En Route to Cyprus Amid Regional Escalation

The Royal Navy destroyer HMS Dragon has encountered a series of technical issues while en route to the eastern Mediterranean, as tensions linked to the war in Iran continue to escalate.

According to UK media reports, the Type 45 warship experienced “power cuts and propulsion failures” shortly after departing Portsmouth on March 10. The vessel had been prepared for deployment within six days, despite originally being scheduled to remain in dry dock until April.

The ship was seen leaving Gibraltar on March 17 after taking on supplies and rotating crew members.

Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10844 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:11 pm to
If the AOC, Newscum, Bernie wing of the democrat party ever wins the presidency, this is what will be done to the United States military. They will totally defund our military in order to smother us in the warm embrace of collectivism.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
19814 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:21 pm to
If the UK was the ally it was under her, I’d agree.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102781 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:22 pm to
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Milei is our ally. Starmer is not. Las Malvinas por favor!


This. It’s in our best interest to be allies with western hemisphere nations. Just because most of our ancestors hail from Europe doesn’t mean we have to be allies. Shared values, economic and geopolitical interests are what allies are for. It’s clear Western Europe no longer shares those values or goals with us.

Our allies as I currently see it are

Japan
South Korea
UAE
Saudi Arabia
Israel (I know lot of criticism here, but at least they’re willing to fight alongside us)
Eastern Europe
Argentina
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:22 pm to
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The Falkland Islands belong to Britain.

Because we supported Britain in their dispute with Argentina. Had we supported Argentina the islands would be theirs right now.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:23 pm to
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The UK couldn't get one of their two! seaworthy destroyers to the Med without a week of notice, and it didn't even get there.



Great, but Argentina's military is not in a good state. They are far behind on procurement, they have two submarines they bought but which are not operational, they've had some years where their service members had less than 100 total service training days, which is a third of what it was in 2012.

Argentina's military spending is 1/10th of the UK's, and are only now sort of figuring some major procurement issues, although there is no guarantee that they will even take delivery, given Argentina's fiscal issues.

Let's not pretend that Argentina is some military powerhouse. They are decidedly not. Even Brazil does better in terms of its native defense industry as Embraer is part of the Gripen program with Sweden and Brazil and there are actually countries buying the Astros MLRS.

With procurement timelines as they are, it will generally take a decade to see out a procurement contract for newly built fighter jets. Argentina is not well-positioned in a military sense to even take advantage of any supposed British weakness.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102781 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:23 pm to
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My Heroine, Maggie Thatcher, is rolling in her grave.


She is rolling in her grave at the state of the UK.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16189 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Japan
South Korea
UAE
Saudi Arabia
Israel (I know lot of criticism here, but at least they’re willing to fight alongside us)
Eastern Europe
Argentina

South America is squirrely, but otherwise I agree. Eastern Europe is tricky, but I'm assuming you're scoping it to Poland, Hungary, Lithuania (any country not allied to the Russians like Belarus.)
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102781 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, Pope John Paul II was the ultimate trifecta
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
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There is some possible remote benefit, say for example, if some reserves are found in its waters.

Reserves of what? The UK won’t produce the North Sea.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Shared values, economic and geopolitical interests are what allies are for. It’s clear Western Europe no longer shares those values or goals with us.


This is immensely funny when you cite the fricking UAE and the KSA as allies.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68483 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:25 pm to
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Reserves of what? The UK won’t produce the North Sea.


Can you read? It's a hypothetical dummy. Read the whole sentence again or go back to Falkland War revisionism. I don't give a shite.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55605 posts
Posted on 4/24/26 at 6:29 pm to
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Can you read? It's a hypothetical dummy.

It sounds like it was a double hypothetical. They’d have to find oil AND the UK would have to change its views on producing oil…dummy.

Anyway, without your missing comma, your insult missed.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 6:30 pm
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