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re: Glyphosate paper Monsanto used to defend safety of Roundup no longer valid

Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Dickaroos
Nunya
Member since Feb 2013
741 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:47 pm to
Round-up is the least of your worries :lol. Out of all the chemicals Farmers use round up is at the bottom
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71464 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:38 pm to
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Residential landscaping runoff is huge.

Just a quick look at the Home & Garden board in early Spring is proof of that.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37037 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:45 pm to
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Damn, I’ve used that stuff in my garden; on the advice of a good friend who is well educated and dedicated to his craft. And loves the landscape. Maybe AI will tell the whole truth.
I buy it by the 2 1/2 gallon concentrate (43%). How long do I have?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13790 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 5:09 pm to
The whole Roundup is bad was started and spread by ambulance chasers
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
4427 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 5:45 pm to
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Don’t care, modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate




god I hate people like you.


So scared of possibly agreeing with a "greenie weenie", you are literally willing to risk the health of your and my family.

Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3014 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 6:42 am to
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That's if you ignore the fact that US homeowners only account for ~2% of the glyphosate used in the US.
You're ignoring the fact that nowhere did I say "glyphosate only."
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Not sure your point here. I have an active RoW license in a few states as well. I don't have an applicable degree
Then you don't have a commercial license, or your state doesn't require it. Some states are very lax on licensure, which is unfortunate, and there's various levels of licensure. You can't open a business and supervise applicators with permits (not licenses) in this state without applicable experience and a approved B.S.
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Uh...I mean sure, using the word "incorrectly" (whatever that means in this context...) can place the blame on a homeowner.
My comment triggered you. I clarified afterwards what "incorrectly" means.
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The homeowner spraying their driveway is not the problem here.
Correct. The culprit is the insatiable appetite the average American suburbanite has for a pristine turf lawn. I'm not sure why you're arguing an objective fact that homeowners account for the significant majority of pesticide usage. It's not up for debate.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21308 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:23 am to
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Round-up is the least of your worries :lol. Out of all the chemicals Farmers use round up is at the bottom


I know too many crop sprayers that have died from cancer in the last 20+ years to feel this way.

glyphosate was a great idea. in the lab, it works great. In the real world, it doesn't. glyphosate is supposed to be broken down after it hits the soil within weeks and then no longer present. In reality, that isn't happening. Why isn't that happening? They really dont have a clue what is going on with glyphosate right now and until they do, you'd be silly to assume it is harmless. That isn't following the scientific method at all.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37037 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:40 am to
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an objective fact that homeowners account for the significant majority of pesticide usage. It's not up for debate.
I thought we were talking about glyphosate. ???
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7882 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:28 am to
Can we just go back to DDT?

On another note I did use salt and vinegar in a spray to kill weeds which seem to be pretty good
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
165 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:29 am to
I’ve either farmed or worked in row crop Ag the past 25 years and I don’t know any. So mine or your data set is skewed.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16173 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:34 am to
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Glyphosate paper Monsanto used to defend safety of Roundup no longer valid


The way they railroaded a local farmer over cotton seed makes me laugh my arse off at the problems Monsanto has had with roundup.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71464 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:36 am to
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I thought we were talking about glyphosate. ???

All weed killers are pesticides, but not all pesticides are weed killers.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19338 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:37 am to
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Don’t care, modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate

Other countries have morden farming without using poison.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16173 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:38 am to
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Can we just go back to DDT?


DDT is an insecticide not a herbicide.

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On another note I did use salt and vinegar in a spray to kill weeds which seem to be pretty good


And everything else, including the crop, if you sprayed it on a field.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7882 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:42 am to
The DDT thing was a joke

And the salt and vinegar was for direct spray on the weed itself

As an interesting aside, I played golf at a friend of mine course recently and the members have very fine salt and when they go on putting green and see a weed they will put a little bit of salt on the weeds
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by 2geaux
Georgia
Member since Feb 2008
2737 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:17 am to
If you eat fresh fruits and vegetables in the winter, more than likely it came from central and south America where they can and do use much harsher chemicals than glyphosate!
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21308 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:19 am to
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I’ve either farmed or worked in row crop Ag the past 25 years and I don’t know any. So mine or your data set is skewed.


Usually the one defending the lack of science on something and calling it safe would be the one who is most likely wrong.

to add some context you'll see Missouri in this study listed as one of the hardest impacted states: LINK
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
1414 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:26 am to
Yup. There are hundreds, if not thousands of unelected bureaucrats that need to be hung for the shite they forced on the American people over the decades so they could make an extra buck.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86409 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:51 am to
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carcinogenic properties of their product
What makes you say this?
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18617 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:54 pm to
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The whole Roundup is bad was started and spread by China
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