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re: Glenn Beck breaks down Israel’s red heifer prophecy and what’s going on now

Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:50 am to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:50 am to
If I was an omnipotent, infinite Creator, I would definitely use vague prophecies that can easily be misinterpreted instead of using plain language.

The Bible is meant to be a guide. Anyone thinking that words were written thousands of years ago to only be specific to today is just seeing what they want to see.

The perfect example is the rapture. The entire premise, which didn't even exist in Christianity until the 1800s, is based off of one vague line. You would think that something so important would not only be explicit, but talked about for more than 5 words. The whole idea that God created the universe using the very precise language of mathematics but then just decided to leave the most important thing up to interpretation is absurd.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:52 am to
The feast timeline is interesting. Also, the rapture explanation is plausible, no one knows exactly how that will go down, but it may be a translation, where the bodies are left behind and therefore, the living left behind will view it as something akin to a pandemic.


But this is definitely wrong:
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and he told her "touch me not, for I have not yet ascended unto the Father" (to offer himself as a Sacrifice)........Mary, merely touching Jesus with sin flesh would have defiled the sacrifice, thats how holy God is, so no sin flesh can enter heaven.


The words are translated as touch, but are better understood in the context of her hanging on firmly and not wanting to let him go. It’s ridiculous to even try and make the case that she could defile him with a touch. He touched leprous people and it didn’t defile him, rather he made them clean. So point is, you’re really reaching here. But tell yourself this, if it makes you feel better.



Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Where I Am
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:53 am to
Be gone Demon. I see you.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:55 am to
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I can remember dabbing in all this stuff about 30 years ago ("Late Great Planet Earth"). This heifer stuff goes on all the time. The End Timers constantly shift their interpretations around to fit the current political or economic happenings. I don't think they are bad people and I can't really blame them for hoping there is a quick end to all this mess, but I have acquaintances who I think are making bad life choices based on a time gamble at best.


Generally, focusing on prophecy as a Christian is going about things all wrong... I will not condemn anyone that dabbles in it or even follows it closely but often times the prophecy becomes the focus of their faith, which is detrimental to their walk with Christ...

I struggle with my own walk and fail daily so I will not cast the first stone but in the end if you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, then you do not have a need to worry about the end times...
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:56 am to
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Dirk Dawgler


Out, Satan. I cast you out in the name of Jesus. You have no power over me, for you are doomed to an eternity in hell. He who is, always was, and always will be has cast you out.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
990 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:59 am to
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Zionism is nothing more than a doomsday cult, and there are going to be a lot of very disappointed, very dumb fricks standing around with their dicks in their hands one day, waiting for a train that ain't gonna come.


Maybe. But think about all of these oddities:

- The final time he walked out of the temple on Holy Week, Jesus said that the temple would be destroyed and the Jews would be scattered. Exactly 40 years later (40 being a very significant number in Scripture), that is exactly what happened.

- On his way out the door of the temple, Jesus said, “You will never see me again until you say ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord,’” which is from a messianic psalm which the crowds had already spoken to Jesus when he was on his way to the temple on Palm Sunday. In other words, Jesus guarantees that he is coming back to the Temple Mount in a messianic procession which was prefigured by Palm Sunday.

Now, perhaps Jesus was misquoted in the gospels. Or perhaps it was made up entirely. Or maybe he was speaking figuratively rather than literally about his return. Before 1948 and 1967, I would have been apt to agree with one of those assessments. The problem is that in AD 1948, an ethnic group that had not had a sovereign state since the seventh century BC suddenly set up a nation which has been the bane of the world ever since. Then in 1967, they claimed oversight of the Temple Mount for the first time since AD 70.

And in spite of the status quo arrangement that Israel presently has with Jordan at the Temple Mount, there have recently been waves of Orthodox Jews who have rushed their way onto the Temple Mount to demand the reintroduction of Old Testament sacrifices, including a group which went up to the Al-Aqsa mosque mere days before the October 7 Hamas attack.

Maybe it is all fantasy. Or maybe things are lining up exactly as we were told in Scripture.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38237 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:03 am to
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If I was an omnipotent, infinite Creator, I would definitely use vague prophecies that can easily be misinterpreted instead of using plain language.


I have Good News.

It is very simple. To know God you must know Jesus. The closer you follow Jesus the better your life will become and you win in the end, guaranteed. It’s awesome.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:06 am to
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Isn’t Beck a Mormon anyway?


Side note: Mormon’s aren’t technically Christians

The first minimum belief to be Christian is in the name Christian

Christians believe Jesus is the divine unique Son of God first and foremost.

Mormons do not think Jesus is unique. Their language SOUNDS like they believe that but if you really ask them and delve into what they are truly saying, they think that Jesus is “A” Son of God and that good Mormons can approach the same status over time.

They are also works based.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 10:07 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:07 am to
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The final time he walked out of the temple on Holy Week, Jesus said that the temple would be destroyed and the Jews would be scattered. Exactly 40 years later (40 being a very significant number in Scripture), that is exactly what happened.


That's what happens when you write about an event after it has occurred.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6206 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:08 am to
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The problem is that in AD 1948, an ethnic group that had not had a sovereign state since the seventh century BC suddenly set up a nation which has been the bane of the world ever since. Then in 1967, they claimed oversight of the Temple Mount for the first time since AD 70.



Haven’t you heard, it’s just one helluva coincidence, even though it’s never happened in the history of the world. Same patch of land, too.

Also, I’ve heard many times that the people aren’t the same. Even though, well the people aren’t the same anywhere as they were 2000 years ago. I guess they need to get the people to dress up in robes and march around with sling shots for some people to wake up, but even then, there would be some other excuse.
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:09 am to
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The Bible and God's Word speak of end times and the passing of this fallen earthly domain and the rebirth/formation of a new heaven on Earth where man will once again have an in person relationship with the Creator as Adam and Eve once had.


Absolutely not
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6117 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:17 am to
Wasn’t that a South Park episode?

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:23 am to
He's going to need to go to the chalkboard with this one.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58926 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:25 am to
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Haven’t you heard, it’s just one helluva coincidence


Oh, it's not. In fact, they deliberately chose the name to dupe religious fanatics.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11474 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:28 am to
I'm still waiting for the landmass promised Abraham to be occupied and in my mind - that will get the attention of the players. Until then, I will do the best I can with the ministry left to us: that being reconciliation.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
488 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:43 am to
I was about asleep, so I was not at my best as per the spelling and at putting the sentences together. Guilty as charged.

As a very young Christian, I had two visions, one where I was running from some very evil people, I had two small kids with me. I hid behind a bush by a house, then in the "Vision" (which is just like a Dream but it happens while you are awake, go read Daniel 7 & 8, he had a Vision while by the river, and he saw Gabriel) I heard a booming voice from above say "The Man of Sin is Here" (the scripture points to the one man who will rule over Israel and many nations in these end times). So, to cut through the red tape, I was told in 1986 that the Anti-Christ was now alive in the world.

My 2nd Vision was about Jimmy Swaggart, from Louisiana, I was in this huge auditorium, he was preaching to maybe 10 people, then within 2 weeks he had fallen from Grace via a prostitute. So, why did God show me that? He wanted me to know His visions are always 100 percent truth, even if they come to pass 40 years later. So, he basically showed me Jimmy Swaggart losing his ministry, which he did for a while, and becoming lesser, he lost his audience. I understood right away what God was telling, me, hey son, you remember that other vision? Its true, do not think it was just some aberration.

Sorry I lost you there, but I fell asleep, woke up with my headphones on and with a computer in my lap, so I finished off as nest I could.
Posted by TTOWN RONMON
Member since Oct 2023
488 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:21 pm to
Hello my friend, lets take in the verse first and I will then answer point by point.

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

It can mean touch, cling to or other things...(I researched this long ago to show how the "Second Coming" doesn't mean Jesus only comes to earth twice, its referring unto his Two Advents, the Meek Lamb and the Roaring Lion)

But your points were Jesus was touched many times and it did not defile him. I did not say she would have defiled Jesus, he knew no sin, she would have defiled "The Sacrificial Offering" unto God, it would have had sin stain on it. The offering came by way of Jesus death and resurrection. Why would Jesus put in or stated "I have not yet ascended unto my Father"?

So, I never said Jesus would be defiled, I was speaking about the sacrificial offering that was offered unto God to break Satan's hold over human beings. By the way, 8 days later, after Jesus went to Heaven and offered Himself as the sacrifice unto the Father, Jesus returned and told Doubting Thomas to touch his wounds.

Believe me, I can see why that would make no sense at all, Jesus touched many people, et al. But I was speaking about a specific time frame, after his death and resurrection, no one could touch the holy offering.

The High Priest who entered the inner sanctum in the temple could only do so by sprinkling blood from a sacrifice, no one else could enter, or they would die via God's holy presence.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162235 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Oh yes there is, and we are well into them.


When did we enter these times? What constitutes "well into them" anyway? Are we 10%? 60%? 90%?

Do you realize that people have been saying the exact thing for thousands of years now?
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:25 pm to
Glenn Beck is clown. The people who believe his nonsense will believe in anything. They are useful idiots.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56396 posts
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:28 pm to
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Maybe it is all fantasy. Or maybe things are lining up exactly as we were told in Scripture.

Or maybe people wrote down some stuff and then went around doing things to make it all happen.

If I'm a coach and I draw up a game plan for a game, and the plan works perfectly and I win, it doesn't mean it was ordained by God.
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