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re: Glad to hear the President promise to not expel Palestinians from Gaza

Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:53 am to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11394 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 12:53 am to
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No such thing. They are all from surrounding countries, many Jordan. Palestinians are people invented to be victims brought to the forefront by Arafat.


Are you trying to say that no one lived in Palestine until Arafat imported people just so he could play victim or that they can't be called Palestinians because they originate from outside the area?

Either way, it doesn't make sense. This whole "they aren't real" and "Palestine doesn't exist" shtick is retarded. The land exists. The people exist. They have lived there for thousands of years. They weren't brought there in the 1960s.

You are arguing over labels and trying to play a semantic game to pretend they aren't real. It doesn't convince anyone that Palestinians are bad or that Israel should be allowed to kill them wholesale, but it does make it easier to dehumanize and ignore the deaths of innocents for those with that thought.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6271 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 1:07 am to
You have an interesting username for someone who doesnt like Israel. There are a good number of psalms about Israel and its position
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:28 am to
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75% of Israelis are from the middle east - they are not a country of mass European transplants. Most of them were kicked out of their homes in Arab countries after they had their property seized


Not saying you're wrong, but do you have a source for this?

Too small a data set, but the most extensive discussion of backgrounds of Israelis that I could find was by looking at the origins of Israeli Prime Ministers. Not one came from a family that was kicked out of their homes in Arab countries. Only one belonged to a family with long-standing (beyond grandparents) ties to the Middle East.

I certainly might be wrong...it was just a quick Wikipedia search...but I would like to know what the truth is.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 6:32 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:41 am to
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You have an interesting username for someone who doesnt like Israel. There are a good number of psalms about Israel and its position


That was a different Israel and NOT the same Israelis as today.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:43 am to
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I hear/read they are poor, feral, low IQ



you mean they are people Jesus would prefer to be around?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:44 am to
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That was a different Israel and NOT the same Israelis as today.




Spot on


this forum refuses to read Galatians
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:46 am to
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You are arguing over labels and trying to play a semantic game to pretend they aren't real. It doesn't convince anyone that Palestinians are bad or that Israel should be allowed to kill them wholesale, but it does make it easier to dehumanize and ignore the deaths of innocents for those with that thought.


From a Christian perspective, this is the best summation that I have read. Thx 10wheels.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50542 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:49 am to
yes sir, it's good to read real truth from brothers in Christ
Posted by JimNat
Member since Jan 2020
901 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:50 am to
Serious question. What is the difference between Palestinians and Hamas? Are all Hamas really Palestinians. I know not all of Palestinians are Hamas
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46866 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:58 am to
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Wall them up, pin them in, give them a starter economy and means to keep it going. Walk away. Let nature take its course.


Israel will never allow that. They want the cheap labor too much.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
22053 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:34 am to
There is no Palestinian’s or Palestine.

Palestine was a renamed area of land that was previously called Judah and Sumaria. After Rome sacked Jerusalem and Judah and Sumaria to mock the Jews they named the area mocking the Jews with their rival territory group from the northern area of the Saudi peninsula called the Philistines.

90 percent of “Palestinians” have Turkish, Druze, European, and Egyptian genetics.

As some have pointed out they group of people in the West Bank and Gaza are just normal Arabs to harass the Jews.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6886 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:23 pm to
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Genetically Palestinians are closer related to Jews than any other Muslims. They are both ancestors of Canaanites.


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Treating religious groups as genetic entities is one of the most infuriating things ever.


You are misunderstanding my point. I guess I should have explained it better.

Canaan is present day Israel, most of Jordan, parts of Lebanon, and parts of Syria. Both Jews and Palestinians are descendants of the Canaanites. Present day Israel is the Jewish and Palestinian original homeland. They maybe different religions, but Israel is where both their descendants come from. If you have read the Old Testament or the Quran it talks about cults, different religions, and the lack of religion in Canaan. The 2 cities most people know from Cannan is Sodom and Gomorrah.

Posters have said that Palestinians are from Egypt and other places in Africa and the Middle East, but that is incorrect.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 6:28 pm
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20307 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 6:25 pm to
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supposed to be home to Palestinian Arabs


Who are the Palestinian Arabs? That’s the question. Since Palestine has never existed it is Arabs from other countries, most notably Jordan. Again, Palestine has never existed regardless of plans or otherwise.

Jerusalem, the Holy City, isn’t even mentioned in the Koran. How could this area that is now claimed by the Arabs, not significant enough to be identified in the Koran? Just listen to what the Arab leaders said on the record in the UN and other forums. Palestine and Palestinians are a political movement solely invented to attempt to destroy Israel. The Arabs never really wanted this area until the Jews developed it.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6886 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:30 pm to
Around 1200 BC to 1000 BC there was the Kingdom of Israel, Kingdom of Judah, Kingdom of Ammon, Kingdom of Moab, Kingdom of Aram Damascus, and Philistine City States. All these were conquered by the Babylonians, Egypt, the Greeks, Rome, and the Ottomans.

Greeks changed the name from Philistia to Palestine. The Greeks probably changed it by accident. There have been many different languages spoke in the area over the last 3000+ years and some of the languages are dead languages.

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The area contained the five cities (the Pentapolis) of the Philistine confederacy (Gaza, Ashkelon ], Ashdod, Gath, and Ekron) and was known as Philistia, or the Land of the Philistines. It was from this designation that the whole of the country was later called Palestine by the Greeks.

Britannica

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The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century bce occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between what are now Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza

Philistia Wikipedia

This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
28161 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:32 pm to
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That's cuz no one will take them.


I bet whatever bleeding heart white libs in Minnesota are left would complete the kill off of that state by bringing them there.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6886 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Jerusalem, the Holy City, isn’t even mentioned in the Koran


Jerusalem is called Al-Quds or Bayt al-Maqdis in Arabic. It is 3rd holiest city by Muslims, because that is where their Prophet Muhammad had his Night Journey. Muslims don’t believe Jesus died in Jerusalem. Many believe he ascended to heaven and will return at the end of time.

I’m not an expert or in the ministry. I learned from being around my grandpa who was a preacher and my parents who youth leaders. I went to a Christian College back in the 90’s. It was mandatory to take 3 religion classes. I took New Testament, Old Testament, and Introduction to Religious Studies. Out of all the classes I took these were probably my favorite. They were great classes and it would be good if every college student would take at least 1.
This post was edited on 3/14/25 at 8:03 pm
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20205 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:05 pm to
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So your uneducated stupid arse doesn't know about Palestinian Christians?


If they support Hamas thy can feed worms! How is that for you?
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:10 pm to
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you mean they are people Jesus would prefer to be around?
So why not just send them to see Him?

Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20704 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:13 pm to
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If they support Hamas thy can feed worms! How is that for you?
Sounds good to me.

And I'll go to church Sunday morning, come hale or high water, and have this very same thought with no guilt at all.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
41553 posts
Posted on 3/14/25 at 8:16 pm to
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Funny enough, that exact strategy was tried in 2006. The animals still took control of the zoo. Sometimes you just have to put an animal out of its misery, its the humane thing to do


How is it that this kind of comment is OK, yet I get a PM for pointing out Tom Cotton got over a million dollars from AIPAC?
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