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re: ‘Getting worse by the hour’: FNC reports Bergdahl renounced US citizenship

Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by a want
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:08 pm to
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I'm still curious as to the why? On the surface this just makes no sense.

I agree. In the other thread, I said it was a shitty deal.

You'd also think they would have known this whole "traitor" business and that it would come up. (regardless of your opinion on this administration or any other, they do have an arse ton of smart people working there). They had to have known.

Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:10 pm to
I think he will be subject to the military justice system. He wont' be allowed to walk away free with no consequences. I won't be surprised if he is court marshaled.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:11 pm to
Even if the Administration lets him face military justice, they still have to explain the release of the 5 detainess.

Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:13 pm to
A lot of the screamers will shut up after they get their pound of flesh.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:13 pm to
Icee freeze headache.

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:15 pm to
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A lot of the screamers will shut up after they get their pound of flesh.


Huh?
Who what when where
Posted by DeltaDoc
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Bergdahl went MIA while in Afghanistan - he left a note saying he was leaving - he was 'captured' by the Taliban that he supported - soldiers died in rescue attempts even though he had deserted - 5 high ranking Gitmo prisoners were swapped for him - this all came after Obama signed a law basically saying he was not given the power to do this


That is pretty much it...though I will add to it that it is SPECULATED by some that

- Bergdahl actually assisted the Taliban in fighting the US;

It is NOT speculated that:
- Obama said this morning that the WH had informed congress frequently of this deal being negotiated...a GOP congressman refuted that saying the last they heard was in 2011;

It is Rumored that:
- It is rumored that Bergdahl was never officially designated as MIA because he was a defector.

It is hard to look at what we know and come away with a good feeling on the subject.

Even if you are of the camp that the GITMO detainees were held illegally, that still does not explain Obama's rational is circumventing a law he signed in their release.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:17 pm to
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It is hard to look at what we know and come away with a good feeling on the subject.


This. Even in the most positive light this is still a weak moment for the Administration.
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:20 pm to
MAD Magazine has weighed in.

Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:21 pm to
Boosie said:
quote:

Even if the Administration lets him face military justice, they still have to explain the release of the 5 detainess.


and I believe that so many people are focused on Bergdaul being a traitor and demanding life in prison or death, they will completely forget about the legal piece of this when they get one of those 2 (death or in prison).

If I were Bergdaul, I'd start cleaning up my affairs because his death would be convenient on many levels.
Posted by Layabout
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Even if you are of the camp that the GITMO detainees were held illegally, that still does not explain Obama's rational is circumventing a law he signed in their release.

Let's put this to rest. Obama signed the defense appropriation bill, one tiny part of which was this requirement. He included a signing statement that he regarded this as unconstitutional and would not abide by it. If you want to know more about signing statements, google Bush and signing statements. Bush made more of them than all previous presidents combined.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:24 pm to
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signing statement
Ah yes those pesky things the Liar in Chief railed against.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:40 pm to
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If you want to know more about signing statements, google Bush and signing statements. Bush made more of them than all previous presidents combined.


I did and clicked on LINK

quote:

George W. Bush's use of signing statements was and is controversial, both for the number of times employed (over 700 opinions, although President Clinton actually issued more [14])


Followed noted reference and got LINK
quote:

Q: I’ve searched your website for George W. Bush’s signing statements and only find about 140. The Boston Globe said there were 750. Where are the rest of them?

A: In an article published on April 30, 2006, the Globe wrote that “President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office.” In a clarification issued May 4, 2006, the Globe note that Bush had not really challenged 750 bills (which would have implied 750 signing statements), but “has claimed the authority to bypass more than 750 statutes, which were provisions contained in about 125 bills.”

Q: Is it true that George W. Bush has issued many more signing statements than any other president?

A: No, Bill Clinton issued many more signing statements. The controversy is about the kind of signing statements Bush has issued.


See how silly these type of statements are? Blaming Bush added nothing and put nothing to rest. We are right back to the importance of the kind of statements Bush made. If we are going back to the "Bush did the bad things, too" defense, please don't pretend you are putting anything to rest. You're digging up old bones.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:45 pm to
9pm - Bergdahl was seen in Opelika buying large quantities of herbicide after the 2010 Iron Bowl
Posted by Layabout
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:48 pm to
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You're digging up old bones.



Most people had never heard of signing statements pre-Bush. Bush elevated signing statements to an art form. Obama's use of them is inconsequential but he did use one in the case at hand.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Most people had never heard of signing statements pre-Bush. Bush elevated signing statements to an art form. Obama's use of them is inconsequential but he did use one in the case at hand.
Meh just another thing he bitched about Bush, that he embraces the minute his hypocritical arse got in the WH.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:51 pm to
That may be but you said
quote:

Bush made more of them than all previous presidents combined.


That is very different from
quote:

Most people had never heard of signing statements pre-Bush. Bush elevated signing statements to an art form.


quote:

Obama's use of them is inconsequential but he did use one in the case at hand.


Only relevant part of your post.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 8:53 pm
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:51 pm to
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2 PM: "Bergdahl spotted on Grassy Knoll with rifle in Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963."

3 PM: "Bergdahl implicated in 1932 kidnapping and murder of Lindbergh baby."

4 PM: "Obama fricks up...AGAIN!"
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:55 pm to
10pm - Bergdahl Raped Her, Murdered Her, Murdered Her Children
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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80916 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:55 pm to
10 pm: Bergdahl seen meeting with network executives shortly before the first reality TV shows were announced,
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