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re: George Wallace won 90% of the black vote in the 1982 Gubernatorial election...

Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 4:55 pm to
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It is mind blowing that the man who did everything in his power to ensure blacks were treated as second class citizens could garner one black vote much less 90% percent of it.


If blacks voted for Wallace at a 90% clip it just goes to show you everything he ever said about them was true
Posted by Royalfishing
Member since Jul 2023
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:00 pm to
Got any reference cites for that?
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10950 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:07 pm to
You could watch live every precint on voting day and see maybe 5% of the voters vs votes counted. They dont vote. People vote for them.

Ill commonly show up and have maybe 30 people in front of me and it still takes 20 minutes to vote. The same precinct that takes 20 minutes to process 30 votes ( 90 an hour) somehow submits 50-80k Votes in 12 hours?

No. Theyre already filled out.

They have the voter rolls of everyone registered.

They count how many no shows there are.

They submit however many they want for whoever they want based on the amou t of no shows. Then they claim RECORD TURNOUT.

even with voter ID it wont be stopped. The only solution is same day in person only with ID.

This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 5:09 pm
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:27 pm to
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IIRC, he lost his initial gubernatorial bid to John Patterson because he was a moderate regarding segregation, and Patterson was a staunch segregationist. That's when Wallace supposedly made his infamous vow regarding future elections. GW would say or do almost anything to get elected.


This, and the vow was he "would not going to be out- **ggered" ever again".

George Wallace was not as racist as he is portrayed today, He wanted to be in power. So much so, that when limited by a 1 term limit at the time, he ran his wife, Lurleen Wallace, who was going though cancer treatment (she died in office), while openly stating that she was just a figurehead and that he would be in charge.
This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 5:59 pm
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 5:49 pm to
Most all blacks I know, and who are friends, will vote D, forever! It is super slow to change....
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
2644 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:05 pm to
It took Alabama to get beat by USC 42-21 in 1970 for them to finally get black player on the varsity team the next year in 1971. I'd thought The Bear could have done it sooner since he was an Idol in the state.

The UA team in 1970 was all white and USC was integrated led by sophomore running back Sam "Bam" Cunningham.
Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:34 pm to
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It took Alabama to get beat by USC 42-21 in 1970 for them to finally get black player on the varsity team the next year in 1971. I'd thought The Bear could have done it sooner since he was an Idol in the state.

The UA team in 1970 was all white and USC was integrated led by sophomore running back Sam "Bam" Cunningham.



Jerry Claiborne, a former Bryant assistant, said, "Sam Cunningham did more to integrate Alabama in 60 minutes than Martin Luther King Jr. did in 20 years.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:36 pm to
There is a great Drive-By Truckers song about his political career.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157377 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:39 pm to
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absolutely blows my mind
why?

black people would vote for jefferson davis -- as long as he promises them free shite
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
9211 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:42 pm to
Well at the end of the day Wallace was never a segregationist, racist, or DEI liberal. The first time he ever ran for governor, and lost, he was endorsed by the NAACP.
He just did whatever he had to do to get power. He was never even dirty with money, he just wanted power
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
9211 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:44 pm to
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Jerry Claiborne, a former Bryant assistant, said, "Sam Cunningham did more to integrate Alabama in 60 minutes than Martin Luther King Jr. did in 20 years.


And that was total bullshite, Bama already had black players on the team. They were all freshmen when freshman were ineligible
Posted by Kafka
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157377 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:52 pm to
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he lost his initial gubernatorial bid to John Patterson because he was a moderate regarding segregation, and Patterson was a staunch segregationis
Patterson and his father were the subjects of the classic movie The Phenix City Story (1955) - in the climax Patterson is shown teaming w/a black guy to defeat the villain!

Actor Richard Kiley played J. Patterson, In the print of the film I saw, there was a prologue w/Kiley (as Patterson) introducing the film.

However, supposedly there is version of the film w/Patterson himself introducing it. I've never seen this version,
Posted by Lou
Modesto, CA
Member since Aug 2005
8798 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:55 pm to
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People could literally campaign in their clan sheets as long as they're a Democrat and black people will still vote for them.


Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157377 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 6:56 pm to
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Lurleen Wallace, who was going though cancer treatment (she died in office), while openly stating that she was just a figurehead and that he would be in charge.
Wiki:
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Lurleen was diagnosed with cancer as early as April 1961, when her surgeon biopsied suspicious tissue that he noticed during the cesarean delivery of her last child. As was common at the time, the physician did not tell the news to Lurleen but to her husband, who insisted she remain unaware, and failed to seek appropriate care for her. When she saw a gynecologist for abnormal bleeding in 1965, her diagnosis of uterine cancer came as a complete shock. Lurleen was outraged to learn from one of her husband's aides that the staffers had known of her cancer since George's 1962 campaign three years earlier
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
4069 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:45 pm to
Amazing. They’d vote for George Wallace right now
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/9/26 at 7:49 pm to
During Jesse Jackson’s 1988 Presidential bid, Jackson met with then Alabama Governor George Wallace to discuss a possible endorsement. Even at that late period of his long political career, Wallace was a force in Southern Politics:



(Wouldn’t you like to have been a fly on that table? And no, that is not CGI. Then V.P. Bush annually hosted a meeting for the governors of the 50 states at his Kennebunkport vacation compound during the Reagan Era. Clinton and Wallace were then the governors of their respective states.)

By 1982, Wallace had renounced his former segregationist past and won an upset victory in a runoff race against then Lt. Governor George McMillan for the Democratic slot on the ticket. Wallace‘s comeback was much of a surprise since Wallace went on to win an overwhelming majority of black votes in his bid to return to the Governor’s Mansion.

Wallace wisely aligning with the reigning black legislative caucus in Montgomery helped the wheel-chair bound and nearly deaf Wallace defeat McMillan, a young energetic “New South” Democrat in the mold of Bill Clinton. The lesson here is politics often produces strange bedfellows.



This post was edited on 3/9/26 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Uatu
The Dark Side of the Moon
Member since May 2022
629 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:02 pm to
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have been looking for a source for this quote for a long time but the internet seems to have scrubbed it. I always figured it could be useful in some discussions.


I was a PoliSci major when I attended Austin Peay, and I can swear on a STACK of Bibles that I saw that quote in one of my textbooks! Nixon’s “Southern Strategy” was the direct counter to LBJ’s declaration. It’s been over 40 years since I was in college, and I’m pretty sure that those textbooks are out of print now! But I’ll give it a shot
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
13647 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:08 pm to
Joe Biden said racist things and they still voted for him.
Posted by Uatu
The Dark Side of the Moon
Member since May 2022
629 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:15 pm to
Here’s proof that LBJ had NO PROBLEM with using that word. Now, let me find that quote!

Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22979 posts
Posted on 3/9/26 at 9:15 pm to
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I was a PoliSci major when I attended Austin Peay, and I can swear on a STACK of Bibles that I saw that quote in one of my textbooks!


Oh I know he said it but trying to look it up now has been difficult.
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