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re: Gentlemen, I think we have saved the nation yesterday with the Save America Act!!
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:55 am to OccamsStubble
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:55 am to OccamsStubble
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Obamacare was far more impactful, and didn’t get 60 votes.
Obamacare was passed via reconciliation; those bills can't be filibustered. That's why there was the big issue of the individual mandate penalty being a "tax" because it allowed it to be considered a revenue bill.
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:58 am to Bard
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Where we get to see who is really for it, who is really against it and how committed to their stance they are.
Wrong. If you think people that are against it will always vote against it you don't understand how congress works.
For example, Collins voted yes. Was she allowed to vote yes, so that she could tell her constituents that she voted yes, while knowing it would not make it out of the house?
After the house votes, if it fails by one or two votes, how may of the yes votes voted yes because they were voting that way knowing it would fail anyway?
And if they can't stop something from passing by even a single vote, a bunch of them will often vote for it just to fool people even though they would have stopped it if they could.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:03 am to mikeytig
I respect the enthusiasm, but it will not be law, at least no this go-round!
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:03 am to TigerAxeOK
I don't even know if it's a matter of a poison pill scenario. They can vote to advance knowing they're not going through get to 60 in the current landscape.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:10 am to mikeytig
Saved the nation from what? The voter fraud that got Trump elected? Or it only voter fraud when Republicans lose?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:28 am to 4cubbies
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Saved the nation from what? The voter fraud that got Trump elected? Or it only voter fraud when Republicans lose?
Trump won in a much bigger landslide than what was tallied.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:29 am to mikeytig
quote:That is what Thune wanted you to think. The SAVE Act has not passed, and IMO Thune has zero intent to pass it. The 51-48 vote was only to begin extended debate.
Gentlemen, I think we have saved the nation yesterday with the Save America Act!!
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Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., promised a vote on the SAVE America Act this week, and the Senate took its vote related to the bill on Tuesday.
Democrats are vowing to block the legislation, which would impose voter-ID and proof of citizenship requirements to participate in federal elections.
Though Republicans have a majority in the Senate, they are well short of the 60-vote threshold to overcome a filibuster, likely dooming the bill.
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:35 am to OccamsStubble
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Obamacare was far more impactful, and didn’t get 60 votes.
As a spending bill they passed it through reconciliation
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:35 am to loogaroo
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So what happened to the house version that only needs simple majority?
They don’t think that version is a good bill.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:37 am to VoxDawg
Isn’t passing
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:41 am to 4cubbies
Trump feels it is necessary to save his final 2 years.
But the issue many Republicans have with the bill is that it serves to curtail voter registrations and removes mail in ballots.
This is not viewed as a positive for the states that have a significant amount of rural communities. It could hurt the GOP there. So they don’t support it.
But the issue many Republicans have with the bill is that it serves to curtail voter registrations and removes mail in ballots.
This is not viewed as a positive for the states that have a significant amount of rural communities. It could hurt the GOP there. So they don’t support it.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:41 am to VoxDawg
Nevermind
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 11:45 am
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:44 am to SundayFunday
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holy shite. it passed the senate?
No, and its not going to.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:45 am to AGGIES
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This is not viewed as a positive for the states that have a significant amount of rural communities.
That is an excuse to hide true motives. There is nothing close to widespread anti-Save Act sentiment in rural America. In fact, it is the opposite.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:47 am to JimEverett
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That is an excuse to hide true motives.
Yeah, we are all wondering (including the Senate) what are the excuses to hide true motives within this bill.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 11:48 am to VoxDawg
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:39 pm to OccamsStubble
quote:Obamacare did get 60 votes.
Obamacare was far more impactful, and didn’t get 60 votes.
There were 60 dems in the Senate. It was a filibuster proof majority thanks to Al Franken's stolen MN election.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:45 pm to Sisyphus
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The House doesn't have the filibuster/cloture. It's a simple majority rule. It is still very unlikely that this ever passes unfortunately. The motion to proceed isn't really a victory, it's a clear sign that we will never get to 60.
The house passed their version and sent it to the Senate. My understanding is that it would only require 51 votes in the Senate following the standing filibuster. (For the house version)
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:48 pm to oldskule
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I respect the enthusiasm, but it will not be law, at least no this go-round!
It will never be.
The Republicans, especially Thune are cowards.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 12:50 pm to loogaroo
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So what happened to the house version that only needs simple majority?
Where is this coming from? The filibuster/debate rules still apply even when the Senate accepts the House version of a bill.
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