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re: Fundamentally Speaking, are There Any Industries That Should Be Not For Profit?

Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:20 pm to
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I think the bigger takeaway here is that very little personal accountability leads to pisspoor performance.
and pisspoor performance led to a loss in profits. Now contractors are held to much higher standards of personal conduct by their employers.

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BTW Blackwater just changed names and still works with the US govt.
Nit in the same capacity.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:24 pm to
God forbid we focus on the greater good in healthcare and education rather than greed.
Posted by Capital Cajun
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:24 pm to
If there is no incentive then why do it?

What should really happen is for government to stop regulating and allow the market to work. If there was competition then the costs would be lower.

The federal government has no business in education, healthcare, or insurance.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:26 pm to
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God forbid we focus on the greater good in healthcare and education rather than greed.
This isn’t even fun anymore. This is like debating with a woman
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
Polio vaccine is a great example. The greater good.
Posted by Dead End
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
So much stupidity in one post.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
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God forbid we focus on the greater good in healthcare and education rather than greed.

Americans are far and away the most giving group in the history of man. And no one gives anywhere near the foreign medical aid as we do. We can afford to do that because of our capitalist profits.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:29 pm to
Profit focus leads to treatments, not cures. Wall street wants sick people to rely on treatments and stay sick forever so they will continue spending money instead of being cured.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:31 pm to
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God forbid we focus on the greater good in healthcare and education rather than greed.


What if I told you greed ultimately leads to greater goods?
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Polio vaccine is a great example. The greater good.

The greater good? Probably, but it’s also probable that he chosen to make a little profit then he could’ve invested in other advancements.

But more importantly, that was a personal altruistic decision and not government forced.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:37 pm to
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God forbid we focus on the greater good in healthcare and education rather than greed.


Profits = better health care and education. Markets produce far better and more efficient products than government.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Profit focus leads to treatments, not cures
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:41 pm to
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Wall street wants sick people to rely on treatments and stay sick forever


This is an argument an uneducated 12 year old would make.

If you really went to A&M, you got ripped off, badly.
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Healthcare being for profit is what leads to innovation
Bingo!

Plus all those Hospitals built of and by the extremely wealthy? Yep, they built FOR the wealth too. Safe investment with eventual guaranteed ROI since EVERYONE will become sick, injured, or dying.

Without those "filthy immoral" rich people the medical centers, as they have grown into from simple hospitals, would never exist.

Show us just one, 1, medical center built by the poor. Hell, even one from the middle class. I'll bet you can't point out a single medical facility in America built of and by "Joe the Plumber" from Schenectady/Oswego/Panama City/etc.. Nor will you find one built by Rosie the Riveter.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:48 pm to
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Profit focus leads to treatments, not cures


He's not wrong.

Lung cancer treatments have horrible real life expectations but are sold to the patient as life saving treatments at exorbitant costs.

The real problem with healthcare is that it in no way resembles the free market.
Posted by CDawson
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Education was more referring to entities like University of Phoenix who scam people with subpar education.


I get your point, but what's the solution?

You can't legislate stupidity out of a population.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
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You can't legislate stupidity out of a population
seems to be attempted by expanding abortion...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295513 posts
Posted on 2/24/19 at 1:55 pm to
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Lung cancer treatments have horrible real life expectations but are sold to the patient as life saving treatments at exorbitant costs.


The cancer survival rate has increased dramatically over the past few decades.

The type of cancer I have, treatments are changing so rapidly it's hard to keep up with them.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/24/19 at 2:02 pm to
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Profit focus leads to treatments, not cures. Wall street wants sick people to rely on treatments and stay sick forever so they will continue spending money instead of being cured.


This is eye-poppingly stupid.

What happened with Hep C?

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